Safe surfing without tracking, with Startpage and Vivaldi
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@plelivel
Yes, these controversies are well known.
But now someone is in the wordhttps://vivaldi.com/blog/browsercast-vivaldi-and-startpage-ceos-join-forces-on-data-privacy-day/
https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/63870/startpage-search-has-a-marketing-owner?_=1662110556832
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@ingolftopf , yes, Andisearch is still in alpha phase, although it works quite well and is in massive development. If it doesn't find an expression, which can still happen from time to time, it also offers a normal websearch using DDG and others and then works as a front-end for these. I am quite in contact with the 2 developers on Discord, Jed White and "Miami Angie", very nice people.Andi is planned later as freemium model, free for normal users and paid for corporatives, APIs and professional use, also a good buisiness model.
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@Catweazle
But 'Discord' is a problem:
"Discord's privacy policy authorises the company to transmit, collect and process all chats, messages and other data unencrypted into saleable data."
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discord
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@ingolftopf , I know, but I only use it for this, because FB, Twitter and Instagram are worse.
Companies use this social networks to contact with the people, also Vivaldi. It don't bother me much, there are no private data of me in Discord, apart from the account mail, the messages there are not so relevant and with Vivaldi and some extensions I use, there are no much what they can collect. -
@Catweazle
There are very good open source alternatives for this, such as 'Jabber/XMPP'.
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@ingolftopf , there are a lot more of these descentralized networks, I know, but companies use those with the most users.
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Bye bye big tech!? Seems you're going to put aside chromium and start from scratch!
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@Pathduck said in Safe surfing without tracking, with Startpage and Vivaldi:
Startpage is a pretty good search engine
After they removed their advanced search page, I'd hesatate to call them a good search engine! I'd take Startpage over Google, but that's not saying much.
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First time I hear about Startpage, is it better than duckduckgo?
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@dynamix , it's relative,the privacy is similar but due to the engines (Google, Bing) the results are way different, the reason to use several different search engines, like Metager, Qwant, Mojeek, Andi, Groot, Whoogle, etc., if you want a maximum result in your searches and be able to compare them.
The worst thing about search engines that do not respect privacy, logging searches like Google, Bing, Yahoo, etc., is to create a so-called Bubble Filter, that is, similar to asking someone who always agrees with you, even if you are wrong (in Google a flatearther always wil find articles and blogs which confirm this in the first place in the results), this is avoided with these private search engines that I mentioned, offering neutral results. -
I prefer ddg because it has bangs. Bangs are excellent
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@eyupp , Andisearch too, same as in DDG
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If you want the best search ability you should use a metasearch engine that searches all the others you would normally use.
Getting an aggregated set of results shows you where the blind spots are in the various services.
That means you can directly compare Bing and Google, or Startpage, DDG and Quant.
Maybe you only want search results from tech and science sources, or only from media sources.
Mix and match or search them all with Searx (open source).My own blog previously covered the topic of using Startpage as your first Google alternative, but points out the advantages of other search options.
You may find some of the other specific search engines fit your needs.
https://dr-flay.vivaldi.net/is-google-holding-you-back/ -
@Dr-Flay , this was also my idea at the beginning of using a meta-search, for example SearX, but I realized that, although they use engines like Google, Bing, etc., these did not work fully as in the original. Especially when searching for images I constantly had problems.
For this reason, I currently have the most efficient search results using Andisearch as the main engine and different engines, such as Dogpile, Qwant, PaulGo, etc. and specific engines, such as Wolfram Alpha, Wikipedia, site search....., apart from an extension to search for images from the context menu, where I choose Yandex, as it is by far the best and most complete for this purpose.
It is quite comfortable in the search bar to put the concept and carry out the search after changing from one engine to another, or to make queries in the address bar with Andisearch, where I have a direct answer.
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