Solved Smooth Scrolling setting does nothing? (Resolved!)

[Aelius]

@Ayespy said in Smooth Scrolling setting does nothing? (still unresolved):

@Aelius Did you turn smooth scroll on in Vivaldi's settings (not flags)?

Yes.

Also, when you try to replicate my problem, do you make sure to set the Chromium smooth scroll flag to Disabled or Default? Because if you leave it Enabled, you'll have smooth scrolling through Chromium and that might lead to you mistakenly think Vivaldi's smooth scrolling is working.

@Aelius I also just happened to think - extensions can screw up stuff like this. Do you use extensions?

Yes, but that's the first thing I tried to disable when I noticed this problem.

[Ayespy]

@Aelius Disabling extensions sometimes does not get their fingers out of the pie. They can run background processes even when "disabled."

And yes, smooth scrolling was working fine for me before I toggled it in flags.

[Aelius]

@Ayespy

Is there some sort of Safe Mode I could try?

[Ayespy]

@Aelius I wonder what would happen if you tried it in a guest profile. That would help to tell whether something in your profile is messing with the setting.

[Ayespy]

@Aelius There is guest profile...

[Aelius]

@Ayespy said in Smooth Scrolling setting does nothing? (still unresolved):

@Aelius There is guest profile...

Hmm, no dice. Here's a gif, on a guest profile, of using my mousewheel one tick at a time with Windows' lines scrolled set to 12 to make the problem even more obvious:

[Ayespy]

@Aelius Man, I don't know. It just works here. I can't guess at what's happening there.

[Aelius]

@Ayespy said in Smooth Scrolling setting does nothing? (still unresolved):

@Aelius Man, I don't know. It just works here. I can't guess at what's happening there.

Ah well, I appreciate you taking the time to try and help. Hopefully someone else can think of some other test I can do to troubleshoot. Or maybe someone with the same problem will respond, even in months time, and help solve the mystery.

By the way, is there much of a difference between Chromium's smooth scroll and Vivaldi's? I'd like to know if I'm missing out on much by going with the Chromium flag instead of Vivaldi.

[Ayespy]

@Aelius They appear to do the exact same thing.

[7twenty]

I started using the Chromium Wheel Smooth Scroller extension for the very reason the OP has stated, the smooth scroll option in Vivaldi just didn't work.

I currently have the option in flags and vivaldi settings enabled.

I haven't done any testing since I installed the extension, but as stated, the whole reason i went looking for it was that I couldn't get the built in options to work. At that time I wasn't using many extensions, maybe only uBlock.

I might play around and have a look again, but not holding out for anything to change.

[Pathduck]

@Aelius Try going to Advanced System Settings in Windows, then Performance, and make sure "Animate controls and elements inside windows" is checked. Restart the browser.

I actually had the same "issue" but didn't really think much about it, and I also tend to turn off all useless animations+crap in Windows. So your post started an investigation and I believe this is the cause. It's not a common for Windows users to disable this feature.

[Aelius]

@Pathduck said in Smooth Scrolling setting does nothing? (still unresolved):

@Aelius Try going to Advanced System Settings in Windows, then Performance, and make sure "Animate controls and elements inside windows" is checked. Restart the browser.

I actually had the same "issue" but didn't really think much about it, and I also tend to turn off all useless animations+crap in Windows. So your post started an investigation and I believe this is the cause. It's not a common for Windows users to disable this feature.

Wow, yep, that did it! Yeah, I tend to hate UI animations that just slow my workflow, so I disable 'em all whenever I can.

Thank you for solving the mystery, good sir, I wish there was an award we could give you, haha.

Still, I wonder why the Chromium smooth scroll flag and Firefox's smooth scroll (not to mention Discord's smooth scroll, and others) worked despite that Windows setting being disabled.

[Pathduck]

@Aelius Happy to help, and it helped me too, now I have "smooth" scroll as well

Note also that @Ayespy said in an earlier post:
"Do you or do you not have Windows animations turned on?"

Still, I wonder why the Chromium smooth scroll flag and Firefox's smooth scroll (not to mention Discord's smooth scroll, and others) worked despite that Windows setting being disabled.

The Firefox and Chromium implementations are very different. Firefox is very smooth - I think maybe too smooth for my taste, just feels sluggish. I guess there's really no single setting here to satisfy all users, so for more control I think an extension (as already suggested) would be better.

I'm not sure what relation the Chromium flag has, as there's no easy way to know what the default setting is. Opera has a nice feature where it shows the default state of a flag, unfortunately for this flag it just says "Undefined"

I'm assuming it's "Enabled" by default. So Vivaldi's setting is for disabling it for those who do not like it. If you do a test, it will add --disable-smooth-scrolling to the launch arguments.

But you're right - if the default state is Enabled, why did it work when it was set explicitly. A guess could be that the browser checks if the OS supports "smooth scroll" during startup (i.e. the UI animation setting), if not the flag is disabled internally for the sesssion. If you set the flag explicitly to "Enabled" it will always force smooth scroll on even if the OS says it does not "support" it.

[Pathduck]

@Aelius By the way, you can edit your first post, click the arrow next to the Submit button and choose "Ask as a question". It will then be marked as "Unsolved". You can then mark a specific post as the solution it will be marked as "Solved".

[Aelius]

@Pathduck said in Smooth Scrolling setting does nothing? (Resolved!):

@Aelius Happy to help, and it helped me too, now I have "smooth" scroll as well

Note also that @Ayespy said in an earlier post:
"Do you or do you not have Windows animations turned on?"

Well, in my defense, I wasn't being dishonest when I said at the time that that setting doesn't change anything. I had enabled this one when testing his suggestion, and it indeed does not fix the problem. Why Microsoft decided not to include all animations with that setting is beyond me.

[7twenty]

Still not working here.

Tested with both options on/off, and checked windows settings are all enabled.

Only thing I didn't check was disabling all extensions.

[jaytsecan]

@Pathduck Thank you so much!

I learnt something new about Windows today