When adding a new bookmark to the horizontal tab, a new Vivaldi window pops up.
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@stoleyourburger Are you running any extensions?
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@Pesala yes but disabling or removing them doesn't do any effect.
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@stoleyourburger Does the same happen if you maximize the Vivaldi window?
Looking at videos from people who have reported this, like this:
https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/76163/new-bookmark-not-new-window
They're all running in windowed mode.I was able to reproduce something similar but now for some reason I'm not able to testing in a clean profile. Seems tricky to reproduce, but there's definitely something there, just no idea how to do it consistently...
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@Pathduck Hey. No, it causes both in expanded window, or window mode. On video I made a video smaller just to better show what the issue is..
@Pathduck Maybe you know the best way to get the settings to clean profile? I don't want to set everything up again
Also, this seemed to happen after the last update. I use only stable updates.
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@stoleyourburger said in When adding a new bookmark to the horizontal tab, a new Vivaldi window pops up.:
Maybe you know the best way to get the settings to clean profile? I don't want to set everything up again
IMO it's better to spend time figuring out what the issue is before recreating your profile. It's quite a process...
If you're running Sync then most important data like bookmarks, logins etc can be synced and restored, but not all data. Some will have to be manually restored and some will be lost. And with Sync there's a risk of the setting/thing/whatever that caused the issue will also be synced back. You will have to recreate some settings no matter what.
First test if you can actually recreate the issue in a clean profile, it takes no time creating a new profile to test.
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@Pathduck Yes, same thing on a fresh created profile.
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@stoleyourburger Very strange issue. I'm able to recreate it in a clean profile of 5.3 Stable as well, but only when windowed for some reason.
https://ttm.sh/b-z.mp4It looks like there's some kind of miscalculation of drop zones for the bookmarks bar, depending on window size, and maybe also on resolution and/or DPI scaling settings.
Dropping a tab on any part of the UI where it cannot be saved should (ideally) cancel the operation. In 5.2 this works as expected, for instance trying to drop a tab on a UI button. In 5.3 however, this opens a new window.
Dropping a tab either outside the window or on the page itself should open a new window. In 5.2 this seems to be broken but working in 5.3, but with the added bug that a new window also opens when a tab is dropped on certain parts of the UI.
Dropping a tab on the bookmarks bar needs it to land exactly on the bar itself, anywhere outside will open a new window. So if these calculations are wrong it might trigger opening a new window instead of creating a bookmark...
Not sure what the expected behaviour should be when dropping a tab in the address bar. Logically it should abort the drop operation because it would make no sense to do it.
Just thinking out loud here, not really and good ideas on why this happens. I don't really do much dragging of tabs myself, I just use
Ctrl+D
to bookmark tabs, or drag them into the bookmarks panel. And I have the bookmarks bar turned off. So probably not the best to test this. But I do know the people who do a lot of tab dragging have very strong opinions on how it should work at times... -
@Pathduck I agree, a very weird behaviour. But I'm having it on fullscreen as well.
I tried reinstalling Vivaldi, and synchronized my account, and the problem is there. I didn't try the problem before I synced, but I'm sure this is something messed up in the profile (since private mode works fine).
On my other PC I don't have this problem. That's weird. I might try to delete a profile and just move all my settings and bookmarks to new one, what do you reckon? As there's no apparent fix to this issue.
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@stoleyourburger said in When adding a new bookmark to the horizontal tab, a new Vivaldi window pops up.:
I tried reinstalling Vivaldi, and synchronized my account, and the problem is there
If you already tested and were able to reproduce in a clean profile no amount of reinstalling or sync will fix the issue for you
since private mode works fine
This is an interesting observation, and I think I see the same here. One difference between private and regular windows is no extensions are usually active in a private window. But in this case, since we've tested with a clean profile with no extensions, they can be excluded. So there must be some other difference here, no idea what.
On my other PC I don't have this problem.
Also interesting. Is the other PC on the latest Vivaldi 5.3 version?
You can compare the two installations to see if you can spot any difference in settings for instance, perhaps narrow it down to a setting would be great.I might try to delete a profile and just move all my settings and bookmarks to new one
You already said the issue was also in a clean profile, so again there would be little point...
For all we know, this is already known and they are working on a fix. In fact I will ping @DoctorG to be so kind as to do a quick search if there are any issues with dragging tabs causing new windows in 5.3?
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@Pathduck said in When adding a new bookmark to the horizontal tab, a new Vivaldi window pops up.:
If you already tested and were able to reproduce in a clean profile no amount of reinstalling or sync will fix the issue for you
Makes sense. But I tried and reinstalled from scratch, without adding any sync or fixing any settings - the issue is still there.
Another interesting thing. If I put this Bookmark Bar on the bottom instead of top, and try moving the tab to the bottom bar as if I want to add a tab bookmarked there - I'm going about 1/3 of the screen down and a new Vivaldi windows opens. I can never reach the bottom bar with the tab. (If it doesn't make sense, let me know, I can do a video).@Pathduck said in When adding a new bookmark to the horizontal tab, a new Vivaldi window pops up.:
Is the other PC on the latest Vivaldi 5.3 version?
Yes both PCs are same version of Vivaldi.
@Pathduck said in When adding a new bookmark to the horizontal tab, a new Vivaldi window pops up.:
For all we know, this is already known and they are working on a fix. In fact I will ping @DoctorG to be so kind as to do a quick search if there are any issues with dragging tabs causing new windows in 5.3?
Thanks, that would be nice.
@Pathduck Since you mentioned that might be somehow connected to the resolution and/or scaling, On the 2nd PC (which is laptop) there's 200% scale, 3840x2400 resolution. I tried changing the scale to higher or lower - no effect. I tried connecting an external monitor (3440x1440). No luck. -
@Pathduck Although on the 2nd PC I'm using the very same monitor with same resolution.
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@stoleyourburger said in When adding a new bookmark to the horizontal tab, a new Vivaldi window pops up.:
Another interesting thing. If I put this Bookmark Bar on the bottom instead of top, and try moving the tab to the bottom bar as if I want to add a tab bookmarked there - I'm going about 1/3 of the screen down and a new Vivaldi windows opens. I can never reach the bottom bar with the tab. (If it doesn't make sense, let me know, I can do a video).
Yes, it's interesting. I can't reproduce that here at all. Although I can reproduce with bookmarks bar on top. But not this 1/3 of the way issue.
A video would help I guess.
I think at this point the best thing is probably just to report a bug. Gather as much information on your system and Vivaldi version as possible, write up a step-by-step guide how to reproduce it, attach or link to videos showing the issue etc. The more info the better. Most important is to be able to reproduce from scratch in a clean profile (which you said you could).
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@Pathduck See When Adding a New Bookmark to the Horizontal Tab a New Vivaldi Window Pops up. There is a vimeo.com video linked to in the first post.
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@Pathduck I will probably do it in the next few days. This is a very very weird issue and I definitely look into reporting it. I sincerely thought that wiping off Vivaldi from the PC (made sure none of the files/settings left) and installing a fresh one would solve the issue, I could have then created a new profile, import bookmarks etc. But was quite surprised when clean Vivaldi had the same issue. (Private mode hadn't).
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@stoleyourburger Good
For all we know, it's a known issue, and a fix might come in the next release.
By the way, there was another similar issue with a video as well:
https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/76163/new-bookmark-not-new-window
I don't think they reported a bug either. And issue was similar but even stranger - dragging a tab into the Bookmarks Panel sidebar opened a new window.Was not able to reproduce that at all...
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@Pathduck
This is actually HILARIOUS! Got a story for you how I solved a problem (or even found a bug I'd say)
So I have 2 PCs; One with Win11 and one with Win10.
The one with Win10 Is the one I had problems with; the win11 machine didn't have problems.
So I decided to Install win10 instead of win11 on my first PC, and after installing Vivaldi, syncing, etc, I added a new tab to bookmarks by moving it from tabs to the bookmark tab, as I usually do. And I got the same bug!
And then SUDDENLY I got enlightened. My Win10 setup is ALWAYS having the Windows taskbar on top (a long time habit). Whether Win11 doesn't let you do it.
And it seems that (since recently) Vivaldi got this bug that if your windows taskbar is on top, you're getting this bug.
I can't (And I probably won't even if I could) test it on earlier versions, but rest assured this is a fresh bug, which I didn't have just a few weeks earlier.
That's a funny story. Now I'm not sure how and when (if only) it will be fixed, but hopefully it will.
edit: I reported the bug to Vivaldi and described it as much as I can, hope they can deal with it.
edit2: just checked the initial PC - yes. After moving the taskbar to bottom, problem solved. -
@stoleyourburger Yes, I can confirm that with the task bar on top (and not automatically hidden like I have it), then yeah the bug also happens with a maximized window.
See, this is why all details, even small ones, on anything that differs from the standards are important. But I agree, this one was nearly important to guess, so good catch
Hopefully they will fix this bug soon, it must be annoying for those who rely on drag and drop
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@Pathduck
To be honest, I didn't even consider this taskbar, because I've been using top taskbar on windows for decades. And this appeared pretty recently and I didn't even consider in mind that can be an issue.
Thanks for a good conversation, and yes, hope they fix it. Meanwhile I put my taskbar on bottom and suffer But it's better than annoying behaviour of bookmarks, since I add sometimes a lot of them (even only for temp use) -
Re: [When adding a new bookmark to the horizontal tab](a new Vivaldi window pops up.)
Same as all the threads: also noticed this annoying behavior only since a few 5.3 updates ago:
- yes, on the most recently up-to-date WIndows 10
- yes, even in a fresh new install of latest regular downloaded standalone Vivaldi, in a fresh new default profile
- yes, very annoying for those of us who are using a lot of drag-and-drop of a tab onto the bookmark bar.
- yes, the workaround is to drop the dragged tab onto the bookmarks bar at least more than approximately halfway up the height of the bar! - this is a consistent finding - if I drop (release the same dragged tab) onto the lower half of the bar I get the damn new window to open.
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@jsosmd Hi, I suggest you read through this topic and understand what might be causing it.
It should have already been reported, but from looking at this topic again, not sure if @stoleyourburger ever actually reported it. If you feel like making a new bug report you can, as I'm not just be aware if it's a duplicate it will likely be closed.
Please read:
carefully and report the bug to Vivaldi bugtracker