Comparison: 'Synaptic' - 'Discover' in Linux

[ingolftopf]

In 'Q4OS', a Debian 11 operating system with KDE-Plasma, much fewer updates are often shown in 'Synaptic' than in 'Discover'.
How is this possible, the same updates should appear?

I prefer to use Synaptic as I think it is better, more comprehensive, but this is a problem.

[DoctorG]

@ingolftopf On my Debian KDE scurity updates do run automatically with unattendedupgrades

Over years i saw that Synaptic and Discover/similar on KDE differed in showing what was new.

[guigirl]

@ingolftopf How do each of them compare to doing sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade in terminal?

[guigirl]

https://linuxreviews.org/Plasma_Discover

Can you compare the repos/sources configured in Synaptic vs Discover?

[ingolftopf]

@DoctorG @guigirl Thank you for your answers.
Updates for Vivaldi are shown in both programmes.
But in Discover, updates for programmes are shown that are not shown in Synapic.
Shouldn't the same updates be shown in both programmes?
Why does Discover find more?

[DoctorG]

@ingolftopf Do you use Flatpak or similar non-Debian packages?

May be Discover does fetch update less.

[ingolftopf]

@DoctorG No

[guigirl]

@ingolftopf said in Comparison: 'Synaptic' - 'Discover' in Linux:

Shouldn't the same updates be shown in both programmes?

Well, I mean, without you answering my explicit questions, i cannot atm contribute any more here.

@guigirl said in Comparison: 'Synaptic' - 'Discover' in Linux:

How do each of them compare to doing sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade in terminal?

@guigirl said in Comparison: 'Synaptic' - 'Discover' in Linux:

Can you compare the repos/sources configured in Synaptic vs Discover?

[ingolftopf]

@guigirl said in Comparison: 'Synaptic' - 'Discover' in Linux:

https://linuxreviews.org/Plasma_Discover

Can you compare the repos/sources configured in Synaptic vs Discover?

This seems to be the reason, I'll have to take a closer look
Thanks for the tip.

[npro]

@guigirl + how do they compare to muon?

@OP have you ever used the latter?

https://apps.kde.org/muon/

[guigirl]

@npro Ah yes, muon & synaptic ... apps from the Bronze Age.

[npro]

@guigirl

apps from the Bronze Age

Can't really take a position on that, as I strictly use the terminal

[npro]

@npro Btw, according to the internet,

said:

I much prefer muon to synaptic. That's mostly a preference for Qt (and KDE theming) over GTK, but also because muon only asks for privilege and takes the APT lock when it needs it, whereas synaptic always does that when it starts. Annoying when I just want to check some detail, like a version or an installed file. Or using other APT tools. I came to muon after a few years of using synaptic.

Sounds like the better tool from the bronze age to me

[DoctorG]

Shell first: on Debian & Mint & Ubuntu i use aptitude , on Arch pacman to update. Why? Because these OS are my development/testing environment.

[guigirl]

@npro said in Comparison: 'Synaptic' - 'Discover' in Linux:

I strictly use the terminal

You're too harsh, nasty & tough! In contrast, i lovingly, caressingly, luxuriantly use Konsole.

[npro]

@guigirl omg let's not go a-r like the other thread again

[guigirl]

@npro

[paul1149]

@guigirl said in Comparison: 'Synaptic' - 'Discover' in Linux:

Ah yes, muon & synaptic ... apps from the Bronze Age.

I like much about Discover, but Synaptic makes freezing versions easy from the UI.

[DoctorG]

@paul1149 Discover seems more for installing standard user's software, not for system maintenance as hold packages etc.

And Discover is borked, does less often show lists, never ending loading instead.

[guigirl]

@paul1149 I do updates & install packages in Konsole using pacman directly, otherwise paru. For a rolling release distro like Arch, IMO Discover is dangerous, so i disabled its ability to do system updates. I only use it every now & then to check for Plasma widget & theme updates, which seem to have no other readily available method.

To freeze versions, i mostly edit /etc/pacman.conf [but i do not freeze much, coz again in a rolling release that's unwise].