How to show specific page instead of speed dial?

jemostrom

New Vivaldi user here: Instead of the speed dial stuff I want to open a specific web page. So I looked in the help docs and found some instructions at the bottom of https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/bookmarks-speed-dial/speed-dials/

This works ... kind of. If I have a window open and create a new window, my desired page opens. If I create new tabs, my desired page opens. But, if I have no windows open and create a new window the speed dial thing opens.

I currently have

Tabs -> New Tab Page set to "Homepage"
General -> Homepage set to "Specific page" with an URL
General -> "Startup with" set to "Homepage"

So I assume that I've missed some setting, but which one?

Pathduck

@jemostrom Hello, and welcome to the Vivaldi Community

You seem to have the settings correct. If opening a new window opens your chosen page, it should behave similar when opening from scratch.

Just for testing, try to set "Startup with" to a custom URL instead.

jemostrom

Thanks.

I tried setting "Startup with" to "Specific pages" and then define a startup page to be the URL I wanted. Unfortunately the same thing happens, I get the page when

I launch Vivaldi
Open a new window if I already have a window open
Create a new tab

But if Vivaldi is running with no windows open I get the speed dial screen ... unfortunately this is the most common scenario for me

Pathduck

@jemostrom said in How to show specific page instead of speed dial?:

But if Vivaldi is running with no windows open I get the speed dial screen

This you really need to explain. What do you mean by "running with no windows open"? Either the browser runs, and there is a window, or it doesn't, right?

I launch Vivaldi

So it works (you get the page you want) when you launch from scratch?

Edit: I guess this is MacOS, so there might be stuff I'm misunderstanding here in terms of how the OS works. In Windows I don't think applications can be in a state of "running with no windows open".

jemostrom

On macOS most apps can be running without having any open windows. So this is how I usually have my apps, they are all running but no windows are open. This is different from for example Windows where you usually have a window open when an app is running.

And yes, it works as expected when launching Vivaldi

Pathduck

@jemostrom Have you tried turning it off and on again?

jemostrom

@pathduck Definitely worth checking ...

Unfortunately, tried different combinations of changing settings and restarting vivaldi. But the end result was the same.

Pathduck

@jemostrom I think someone who knows MacOS will have to answer.

Maybe a screenshot or video of the problem, also showing your relevant settings pages might help.

Have you tried restarting the system? Just an idea...

jemostrom

@pathduck Good suggestions. I tried restarting but it didn't help. A video of how it looks like can be found here https://vimeo.com/684664454/54713901f0

I forgot to do it, but if I open a second window at the end wikipedia is shown.

Pathduck

@jemostrom Thanks for the video, and I think I understand the problem now. In fact I think this is a known issue, and it's the same in Windows if using the new tab/window option directly from the taskbar. I'm pretty sure the team is aware of this issue, but it's not easy to fix.

Trying to give a technical reason for it, even if I'm not 100% sure here: The Vivaldi UI is an "App" built on top of the Chromium base. When you're launching V through the "menu" or whatever it's called in MacOS (Windows task bar), you're actually just launching/calling Chromium, not Vivaldi. And Chromium just launches the chrome:/newtab page, which basically just redirects to the Vivaldi Speed Dials, ignoring any setting about custom homepages.

So I think there will be a lot of work from the Vivaldi team before this works properly, hopefully it will happen soon.

jemostrom

Interesting. I have discovered another thing that is probably related. Since I use different browsers/computers/accounts I have an external bookmark manager. With this I can quickly select a bookmark and it's opened in a browser, well it's opened in other browsers but not Vivaldi ... unless I already have a window already opened.

jemostrom

@pathduck Since I'm new to Vivaldi I need to ask: should I submit this as a bug report somewhere?

Pathduck

@jemostrom Open a new topic for new issues. You don't know if this is related.

Also I think maybe the issue of opening URLs from external apps seems to be common on macOS. I don't have a Mack so I can't test.

If you are sure this problem is not caused by your OS, your settings, or anything else you've done, and if you've tested this after going through ALL the troubleshooting steps, you can of course just report a bug. But if it's not a good report and reproducible it will be closed.
https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/troubleshoot/troubleshooting-issues/

Please read:

carefully and report the bug to Vivaldi bugtracker