Why Vivaldi will never create ThinkCoin
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@mossman: Many countries who have banned crypto are in fact planning themselves of launching their own type of "fedcoin". They just don't want to competition and well want to spy on the population better.
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@artex said in Why Vivaldi will never create ThinkCoin:
If you wanted truly decentralized and uncensored internet for anyone use Brave.
Or Vivaldi.
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@catweazle: Opera doesn't give a shit about their users. Many issues and suggestions that have been provided to Opera goes unheeded for many years now.
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@mossman: Other than the metaverse and NFT shit, I think its fine, there are many more DApps out there that are doing great and are very successful, unfortunately many of these projects are not as secure as they seem to be and yes there are a lot of shitcoins or scam coins out there, which is why people who do engage in crypto must do their extreme due-diligence, research the project, research the makers/founders of the project, etc.
And other thing to add a lot of the horrible no good stuff that happens seem to occur with projects that are very centralized as opposed to similar projects on the more decentralized side of crypto. I do agree with one thing this shouldnt be promoted to the general public especially at this stage which is still its infancy. -
@artex Not quite the same, Some suggestions are contradictory, some just don't fit with what the owners feel their niche is. I doubt they'll ever implement the various theming suggestions in Opera Stable, as they think a simplified theme will make the browser faster. Not sure if their new so-called crypto browser really adds anything. Up to them, of course.
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@artex , I know, current Opera has nothing to do with the old Opera, it should be called Arepo, or better 雷波, to avoid confusion.
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@doctorg: The American Dream is the ability to make your life better. It isn't restricted to the United States. See this: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/08/07/opinion/leonhardt-income-inequality.html
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@frattaro , in the American Dream, all so soft and clean
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@catweazle That dream of straight US boys and girls makes me run away!
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@doctorg , that was the meaning.
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@doctorg As an American myself, I wish I could tell you that you were wrong. But I can't! Too many Americans will tell you how bad you are, if you don't follow the "right" path and profess the "right" beliefs.
And it's not just the right or the left, the Christians or the Woke, the straights or the gays. Americans on both sides of the political and cultural divide behave that way! Fortunately, not all of us are like that.
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actual cryptocurrencies have no actual value
So does fiat money, which is pretty much all money in circulation. If it's not backed by silver or gold then it is as worthless as Bitcoin is. Remember that what happened in Weimar Republic or in the US in the 1930's can happen even now, because of the fact that currencies have no real value, just like Bitcoin. Plus, a lot of the cryptocurrencies around are pretty much worthless, not even worth 1 cent per coin. Those are essentially dead in the water, because anyone can make a cryptocurrency, but barely anyone can keep it's value.
Many people have been blacklisted from gaining funds through banking due to the MATCH list, and it's not because they were doing illegal things, people get blacklisted by banks because of their politics or beliefs. It's often because new platforms that allow true freedom of speech as is written in the Second Ammendment will inevitably be flooded by all the extremists that have been banned from all the major websites that have tight control of who can say what, and it's not representative of the views that the owners have, it's just a side effect of current policies in large corporations. That's where cryptocurrencies come into play, where there is no central entity that can dictate who can receive money and who cannot. For many it's the only way to fund an alternative to all the Silicon Valley giants.
And a fun history fact: the carbon footprint idea got popularized by BP, the oil company, to shift the blame of polluting the environment onto consumers, who cause a promile of the pollution that big corporations do. And as for the energy consumption, I'd argue that all the banking infrastructure that's now in place and operating utilizes more energy than Bitcoin mining, so it's not fair to point out that Bitcoin is consuming a lot of energy if the traditional systems consume even more.
In my opinion cryptocurrencies are getting too much hate and are often accused of the flaws that our current currency systems have, and that cryptocurrencies do have a purpose in modern day, where banking is heavily controlled and can be used to keep a monopoly on social media. I of course fully respect Vivaldi's decision, and I'd even say it would be a waste of resources as such a cryptocurrency would simply die out, but I do believe that both sides of the argument should be represented and discussed.
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@supra107 , I see the problem, apart from adding another carbon source to the existing one, even if it is less (?), in the system itself, rather than using cryptocurrency.
By definition in a capitalist system, as it is practiced today, the greed of a few prevails, turning any economic system into a pyramid scheme, which with a virtual economy is even worse.
If it is already a risk to make money with speculation, it is even more so with an economy that exists exclusively in the cloud. -
@supra107 said in Why Vivaldi will never create ThinkCoin:
In my opinion cryptocurrencies are getting too much hate and are often accused of the flaws that our current currency systems have, and that cryptocurrencies do have a purpose in modern day, where banking is heavily controlled and can be used to keep a monopoly on social media.
I say we go back to using something useful as currency, like when they use to use salt. At least you can use it for something.
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If you don't like them, don't invest in them; simple. Do not tell everyone else what to do because you think you know better. That's arrogant and condescending.
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So many new & often angry Vivaldi community members who registered only because of a "Never use *Coin" article. -
@doctorg said in Why Vivaldi will never create ThinkCoin:
So many new & often angry Vivaldi community members who registered only because of a "Never use *Coin" article.Not even remotely true, but you knew that before you made your post.
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@zikalify2 said in Why Vivaldi will never create ThinkCoin:
Do not tell everyone else what to do because you think you know better. That's arrogant and condescending.
Is the blog post telling everyone else what to do?
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Everyone is free to do what they please, personally I can only give reasons why I do not like crypto currency, which is also shared by renowned economists, just as I do not like any speculative economy.
Therefore I am with those who are against it for similar reasons and get those who use it to reflect on the implicit risks.
I still think that in the current capitalist system, cryptocurrency is trying to put out the fire with gasoline, or greed with a virtual currency of uncertain values.
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Thank you for being a voice of sanity.
There is much to learn from the story of "The Emperors New Clothes".In this modern age we have made the Emperor some new coins, new art and now people are even trying to sell the Emperor some new land.
