importing mail from Opera to the new mail client
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Vivaldi 4.0 fails to import email from Opera (12.16, Debian Linux). Using File, Import from Applications or File, I get a message of "check status bar for progress" but the status bar shows nothing and nothing happens. My operaprefs.ini is in the correct place. It also fails to import contacts. It did detect a second account, meaning it did find ~/.opera/mail/accounts.ini. It did set up the account (manually), so I can get new mails but not the full archive.
Also, there is an option to move to a folder, but not create a folder or view by folder. I can create a flag but not view by flag. I have no contacts and cannot add them. Vivaldi has given me a default signature (promoting Vivaldi) but no way to change that setting.
Given Vivaldi's background with Opera, this is more than disappointing. The promised mail feature was a key reason why I chose Vivaldi years ago (there are many more reasons now). And after all this time, upon its release it turns out to be alpha. I suppose I'll wait a bit then give up and migrate my mail to Thunderbird.
In other matters, thank you for the translate feature. That's going to save me a lot of trouble.
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Yes, several people have brought up failing import from M2
See in particular this thread where some people habe exchanged some useful info on how to make it work, but not sure if it also works for you. Once you have your mail in Vivaldi it works quite well but is certainly still more limited than opera 12 was. Which, by the way, still works
Usually on Win11 running Vivaldi Snapshot builds. Opinionated about working efficiently with email. Folders are evil | Mail workflow: receive, read, reply, mark as read, done.
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Thanks, but that doesn't help. I have the right files in the right places. Closing and restarting Vivaldi makes no difference.
I do still use Opera, for mail only, while waiting for Vivaldi. Thunderbird is the fallback option, but a unified mail client and browser would be more convenient.
Will Vivaldi's mail client ever equal Opera's? If it stays as limited as it is now, it regrettably won't be usable for me. Still easily the best browser.
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@jameskeating3 The Signature for each account can be edited in Settings, Mail.
I managed to import my mail, but not my contacts. Maybe one day they will figure this out, but Mail has been under development for six years already.
It is Beta software, not Alpha, as most of the features are complete, and generally work quite well. I no longer use my Opera 12.18 email client, but I can find my old contacts there if I need to.
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Will Vivaldi's mail client ever equal Opera's?
Probably not. Roughly speaking, it has 90% of the features of M2's features that I fancy and 20% of additional helpful stuff. Small bugs as well, yes, but I actually don't see a reason to use M2 any more.
Happy to discuss about features that you're missing, probably https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/57939/what-do-you-think-of-mail-client-after-using-it-for-several-months/ is the best thread for this (despite the thread title saying otherwise. I think
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@wildente said in importing mail from Opera to the new mail client:
For resolving your actual issue, you may want to also see
https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/59204/importing-from-m2-fails-at-irc-accounts?_=1622317002490 and https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/61660/some-minor-m3-usability-suggestions/5 -
Thanks. but nope. vivaldi://experiments doesn't have a mail option (linux).
Conceivably relevant is that in my Opera settings, protocols * file http html open https are all set to /usr/bin/vivaldi -newpage, and only mailto opens in Opera.
Looks like the M2 features you fancy and the ones I use diverge. I use labels to organize everything. Vivaldi's client current lets me label something but not see only the things with a particular label, using them as quasi-folders. So fine, then. Now I know the options.
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@jameskeating3 said in importing mail from Opera to the new mail client:
Thanks. but nope. vivaldi://experiments doesn't have a mail option (linux).
It was an experimental feature, but now it is in Beta so it is always available to be enabled in Settings, Mail.
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Even if you have the ini-file in the usual place, uncheck the standard profile folder. Point to it instead (that is to ~/.opera). If it doesn't work try a second time. In my case it worked on Debian that way. But only for one account. I had to delete the others from Opera. Couldn't get it to import from three accounts and make them work (either it didn't import all old mail or at least one account didn't retrieve new mail). In the end the import of one account and later addition of other accounts (without importing) worked in my case.
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@ghpy the CEO himself asked us to write bug reports about M2 import
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@wildente said in importing mail from Opera to the new mail client:
@ghpy the CEO himself asked us to write bug reports about M2 import
I'm not keeping anyone from filing bug report
Did file one myself on this matter a few days ago. Just trying to help the TS as I spent hours trying to migrate my 10.000 mails to Vivaldi. -
I did try choosing the location manually. Possibly Opera has some glitches -- it now is failing to show my most recent mails, though it did this morning. Could be an effect from Vivaldi, but more likely bitrot; this is not the first time. I'm migrating to Thunderbird. I'll try Vivaldi's mail client again another day, and see if you have gotten functional folders and filters (labels). I thank everyone for your suggestions. Vivaldi is the best, and getting better in a bunch of ways.
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@ghpy
Hi, I read some time ago import of 100000 mails from M2 need days. I guess 10000 need a few hours at least.Cheers, mib
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@mib2berlin said in importing mail from Opera to the new mail client:
@ghpy
Hi, I read some time ago import of 100000 mails from M2 need days. I guess 10000 need a few hours at least.Took maybe five minutes on my laptop (cheap, but with SSD). Probably takes longer with lots of large attachments. My 10.000 mails had a total of about 1 GB. (Edit: The mentioned hours I needed to make it work because it didn't in the first place. The actual import when it did work took only a few minutes)
If the status bar (the one of Vivaldi's window, not the one of the small pop up import window, which gives useless information) doesn't start within a minute or so to give some information about the number of imported mails the import doesn't work correctly and it's no use waiting for hours.
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@jameskeating3 said in importing mail from Opera to the new mail client:
Possibly Opera has some glitches -- it now is failing to show my most recent mails, though it did this morning.
That's the reason why I didn't want to wait with the migration any longer. For some time now some mails are not listed correctly in M2. I could only find them using the search but not in the normal folders.
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