Vivaldi 4.0: Vivaldi Translate and betas of Vivaldi Mail, Calendar and Feed Reader are here
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Just as faithfully as Vivaldi puts out its major version about two weeks after Chromium's major bump, it's also a rule that mere hours after Vivaldi releases its major version that Chromium will go bump in the night with a security update (this one for 14 issues):
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Todayโs update expands our integrated tools in the browser with major additions: Vivaldi Translate and the much-awaited beta versions of Vivaldi Mail, Calendar, and Feed Reader.
In other words, Vivaldi isn't just a browser anymore, it's not just a program that views webpages. It's an internet suite, it handles things like e-mail too.
[W]e aim to give you a real alternative to Big Tech.
And an internet suite is an alterative to Big Tech. Makes me think of how the Internet has changed over the years. Used to be that had actual programs on our computers to handle things like e-mail. And now, we've given that to Big Tech.
Also reminds me that Vivaldi's in an ironic position. It's the browser of the past, it has features that mainstream browsers got rid of. And it's also the browser of the future, by being the first browser to have a new feature before the mainstream browsers copy it.
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Congrats on the awesome release! Yet I still weep for 3.6 and my auto-updating desktop wallpapers...
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@damirh The auto-updating background image will return. It's being worked on. It will just be the new background structure, not the old one.
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@ayespy I know, I keep checking back every now and then to see if it's in any of the new desktop snapshots.
Speaking of which, I can no longer find the desktop snapshots page on the homepage, was it (re)moved?
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@mscha: Nope. I think they forgot to ship the commit that fixed that. I think we may get a hotfix soon.
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@damirh I don't speak "homepage." I just have a link to the unread items on forum, and to the desktop snapshots page on the blog. Haven't noticed that they moved, or anything. But maybe the site map is different now.
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@ayespy Ah that makes sense. I was usually navigating through the vivaldi.come homepage drop-down, which changed (I presume today)
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There are some usability issues with the Mail/Feeds in the Panel and the whole Mail window:
- it works as intended when the Panel is not hidden and you click on the mail icon
- even if the Panel is not hidden and you open Mail from the menu you might wonder where is that Compose button?
It becomes more confusing when the Panel is hidden and even more confusing when Floating Panel is activated
with this setting the panel is overlapping all your mails.
I hope to see improvements here for those users who prefer to hide the Panel.
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Not a fan of this "3-in-1" Toggle mail view button concept:
I think a drop-down menu with options would be much better e.g. like Page Tiling button:
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Congrats on the release.
Set up my mail accounts today and it works wonderfully. Got a few feeds set up too.
The "agenda" feature of the Calendar is genius, I find it very useful. And of course, it's nice to have all of this within one window (the browser).
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Calendar new compact layout idea
I think it would be nice to have an alternative layout where the calendar would not take up all the space. It could be similar to mail, where you have several panes e.g. 1st pane is for the calendar, others for the Events/Tasks:
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@reyla said in Vivaldi 4.0: Vivaldi Translate and betas of Vivaldi Mail, Calendar and Feed Reader are here:
Congrats on the release.
Set up my mail accounts today and it works wonderfully. Got a few feeds set up too.
The "agenda" feature of the Calendar is genius, I find it very useful. And of course, it's nice to have all of this within one window (the browser).
Glad you like it.
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Great release so far. I am a bit behind and can't wait to try everything out. and Thanks Vivaldi Team for your hard work.
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Massive slowdown and lag issue after enabling these features, how do I fix that?
After disabling productivity features, browser goes back to normal speed again -
@jon
I have suggested improvements. See my feature request.The panel only lists the subscriptions, which, in this form is barely useable for anything. The feed reader page has a LOT of bloat from the mail interface in the menus and on the toolbar. I undesrstand, the benefits of using the mail backend for the feeds as well, but it should not be visible for the user, if he doesn't want to do anything with the mail, only to read his subscriptions.
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Esto es sencillamente maravilloso!!
Ya estoy probando todo, gracias, gracias y gracias.This is simply wonderful !!
I'm already testing everything, thank you, thank you and thank you. -
in the new update, mail beta ,search option is not running correctly.
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So on one computer, the mail panel displays fine.
On another (latest stable update of Windows 10, latest stable update of Vivaldi as offered by autoupdate), it just never puts the mail panel into the panel on the left. So I can see the account is in, and I can see new emails, but no folders at all.
If I try to add the mail tab to the panel, it just says:
This site canโt be reached. The web page at chrome://mail/ might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address.
ERR_INVALID_URLSo what I have is a browser that has my email in a tab I cannot reopen without bookmarking it, no mail icon in the panel at all, and no access to folders. When I click the mail icon in the status bar, I get a brief overview of other email ("Recent in All Messages") but I can't get to the 45,000 emails on the account that aren't new and in the Inbox.
View... Mail Panel does nothing. It's picked up the email because it's indexing it and I have a bunch of mailing lists detected (the thing I HATED about Opera because there was no way to turn that mailing lists tab off in Opera) but there's no way to access unread email or subfolders.
The only real difference between the two machines that I can see is that one goes through a web proxy (which I manage) and one doesn't. Turning off the proxy doesn't appear to change the situation (and it's not a proxy that interferes much with me because, well, I'm the one who manages it!).
So as a mail client so far, it's pretty useless to me, and I can't believe my machines are "odd" enough to be somehow unusual... they are plain imaged Windows 10 Enterprise, updated whenever Windows Update says to, with an install of Vivaldi that's always been the stable release and only updated when it prompts, and a GMail account.
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I hope that some day you will start solving bugs and stop adding new features, at least for as long as there are bugs... Because I really like this browser, but I don't like how you ignore all of the imperfections.