Solved Youtube video lagging

Falck

Hi!

Using latest Vivaldi with an 5800x, 6800XT (latest drivers), 32GB RAM, I'm on cable 60Mb nothing else on the network.

When I watch YouTube videos the videos often start lagg (like 15fps lagging). I have hardware acceleration on, off rectifies the problem somehow, but not satisfactory.

The weird thing is that the videos doesn't do this when video is small, but it's happening in cinematic and fullscren. One workaround is positioning the mouse on the youtube video controls (pause/play etc) keeping the timeline visible, then the video doesn't lagg.

Windows PowerProfile is set to balanced with slider to performance. Changing profile doesn't do anything.

Falck

Found the setting that makes video lag!

It's the Radeon Anti-Lag feature, ironically! When enabled youtube lags! When disabled it's smooth!

Falck

Thank you for following up so fast Gwen-Dragon!

1. 20H2 19042.985 WFEP 120.2212.2020.0

2. 3.8.2259.42 (Stable channel)

3. AMD Ryzen 7 5800X / 32GB RAM

4. AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT (Drivers: 21.5.2, latest)

5.

Graphics Feature Status
Canvas: Hardware accelerated
Compositing: Hardware accelerated
Multiple Raster Threads: Enabled
Out-of-process Rasterization: Hardware accelerated
OpenGL: Enabled
Rasterization: Hardware accelerated
Skia Renderer: Enabled
Video Decode: Hardware accelerated
Vulkan: Disabled
WebGL: Hardware accelerated
WebGL2: Hardware accelerated
Driver Bug Workarounds
clear_uniforms_before_first_program_use
decode_encode_srgb_for_generatemipmap
disable_delayed_copy_nv12
disable_direct_composition_sw_video_overlays
disable_nv12_dynamic_textures
disable_vp_scaling
exit_on_context_lost
limit_d3d11_video_decoder_to_11_0
use_empty_video_hdr_metadata
disabled_extension_GL_KHR_blend_equation_advanced
disabled_extension_GL_KHR_blend_equation_advanced_coherent
Problems Detected
Some drivers are unable to reset the D3D device in the GPU process sandbox
Applied Workarounds: exit_on_context_lost
Clear uniforms before first program use on all platforms: 124764, 349137
Applied Workarounds: clear_uniforms_before_first_program_use
Disable KHR_blend_equation_advanced until cc shaders are updated: 661715
Applied Workarounds: disable(GL_KHR_blend_equation_advanced), disable(GL_KHR_blend_equation_advanced_coherent)
Decode and Encode before generateMipmap for srgb format textures on Windows: 634519
Applied Workarounds: decode_encode_srgb_for_generatemipmap
Delayed copy NV12 causes crashes on GPU main thread when DXVA video decoder runs on another thread: 983787
Applied Workarounds: disable_delayed_copy_nv12
Don't use video processor scaling on non-Intel, non-NVIDIA GPUs.: 993233
Applied Workarounds: disable_vp_scaling
dynamic textures fail to work on AMD GPUs: 1029855, 1050666
Applied Workarounds: disable_nv12_dynamic_textures
Limit D3D11VideoDecoder to 11.0 due to crashes on AMD: 1012464
Applied Workarounds: limit_d3d11_video_decoder_to_11_0
Send empty video hdr metadata due to crashes on AMD: 1045586
Applied Workarounds: use_empty_video_hdr_metadata
Software overlays fail to work reliably on AMD devices: 1161215, 1160217
Applied Workarounds: disable_direct_composition_sw_video_overlays
ANGLE Features
allow_compressed_formats (Frontend workarounds): Enabled: true
Allow compressed formats
disable_anisotropic_filtering (Frontend workarounds): Disabled
Disable support for anisotropic filtering
disable_program_binary (Frontend features) anglebug:5007: Disabled
Disable support for GL_OES_get_program_binary
disable_program_caching_for_transform_feedback (Frontend workarounds): Disabled
On some GPUs, program binaries don't contain transform feedback varyings
lose_context_on_out_of_memory (Frontend workarounds): Enabled: true
Some users rely on a lost context notification if a GL_OUT_OF_MEMORY error occurs
scalarize_vec_and_mat_constructor_args (Frontend workarounds) 1165751: Disabled: false
Always rewrite vec/mat constructors to be consistent
sync_framebuffer_bindings_on_tex_image (Frontend workarounds): Disabled
On some drivers TexImage sometimes seems to interact with the Framebuffer
add_mock_texture_no_render_target (D3D workarounds) anglebug:2152: Disabled: isIntel && capsVersion < IntelDriverVersion(4815)
On some drivers when rendering with no render target, two bugs lead to incorrect behavior
allow_clear_for_robust_resource_init (D3D workarounds) 941620: Enabled: true
Some drivers corrupt texture data when clearing for robust resource initialization.
allow_translate_uniform_block_to_structured_buffer (D3D workarounds) anglebug:3682: Enabled: IsWin10OrGreater()
There is a slow fxc compile performance issue with dynamic uniform indexing if translating a uniform block with a large array member to cbuffer.
call_clear_twice (D3D workarounds) 655534: Disabled: isIntel && isSkylake && capsVersion < IntelDriverVersion(4771)
Using clear() may not take effect
depth_stencil_blit_extra_copy (D3D workarounds) anglebug:1452: Disabled
Bug in some drivers triggers a TDR when using CopySubresourceRegion from a staging texture to a depth/stencil
disable_b5g6r5_support (D3D workarounds): Enabled: (isIntel && capsVersion < IntelDriverVersion(4539)) || isAMD
Textures with the format DXGI_FORMAT_B5G6R5_UNORM have incorrect data
emulate_isnan_float (D3D workarounds) 650547: Disabled: isIntel && isSkylake && capsVersion < IntelDriverVersion(4542)
Using isnan() on highp float will get wrong answer
emulate_tiny_stencil_textures (D3D workarounds): Enabled: isAMD && !(deviceCaps.featureLevel < D3D_FEATURE_LEVEL_10_1)
1x1 and 2x2 mips of depth/stencil textures aren't sampled correctly
expand_integer_pow_expressions (D3D workarounds): Enabled: true
The HLSL optimizer has a bug with optimizing 'pow' in certain integer-valued expressions
flush_after_ending_transform_feedback (D3D workarounds): Disabled: isNvidia
Some drivers sometimes write out-of-order results to StreamOut buffers when transform feedback is used to repeatedly write to the same buffer positions
force_atomic_value_resolution (D3D workarounds) anglebug:3246: Disabled: isNvidia
On some drivers the return value from RWByteAddressBuffer.InterlockedAdd does not resolve when used in the .yzw components of a RWByteAddressBuffer.Store operation
get_dimensions_ignores_base_level (D3D workarounds): Disabled: isNvidia
Some drivers do not take into account the base level of the texture in the results of the HLSL GetDimensions builtin
mrt_perf_workaround (D3D workarounds): Enabled: true
Some drivers have a bug where they ignore null render targets
pre_add_texel_fetch_offsets (D3D workarounds): Disabled: isIntel
HLSL's function texture.Load returns 0 when the parameter Location is negative, even if the sum of Offset and Location is in range
rewrite_unary_minus_operator (D3D workarounds): Disabled: isIntel && (isBroadwell || isHaswell) && capsVersion < IntelDriverVersion(4624)
Evaluating unary minus operator on integer may get wrong answer in vertex shaders
select_view_in_geometry_shader (D3D workarounds): Disabled: !deviceCaps.supportsVpRtIndexWriteFromVertexShader
The viewport or render target slice will be selected in the geometry shader stage for the ANGLE_multiview extension
set_data_faster_than_image_upload (D3D workarounds): Enabled: !(isIvyBridge || isBroadwell || isHaswell)
Set data faster than image upload
skip_vs_constant_register_zero (D3D workarounds): Disabled: isNvidia
In specific cases the driver doesn't handle constant register zero correctly
use_instanced_point_sprite_emulation (D3D workarounds): Disabled: isFeatureLevel9_3
Some D3D11 renderers do not support geometry shaders for pointsprite emulation
use_system_memory_for_constant_buffers (D3D workarounds) 593024: Disabled: isIntel
Copying from staging storage to constant buffer storage does not work
zero_max_lod (D3D workarounds): Disabled: isFeatureLevel9_3
Missing an option to disable mipmaps on a mipmapped texture
Version Information
Data exported	2021-05-12T11:56:51.472Z
Chrome version	Chrome/90.0.4430.214
Operating system	Windows NT 10.0.19042
Software rendering list URL	https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/490e126be055ac0c1cdad9422b8e19b61d401b5d/gpu/config/software_rendering_list.json
Driver bug list URL	https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/490e126be055ac0c1cdad9422b8e19b61d401b5d/gpu/config/gpu_driver_bug_list.json
ANGLE commit id	unknown hash
2D graphics backend	Skia/90 f1e4f21baf44e7c9cc0efbbba21c4ed6009686b3
Command Line	"C:\Users\falck\AppData\Local\Vivaldi\Application\vivaldi.exe" --flag-switches-begin --enable-features=PasswordImport --flag-switches-end --origin-trial-disabled-features=SecurePaymentConfirmation --save-page-as-mhtml
Driver Information
Initialization time	114
In-process GPU	false
Passthrough Command Decoder	true
Sandboxed	true
GPU0	VENDOR= 0x1002, DEVICE=0x73bf, SUBSYS=0x0e3a1002, REV=193, LUID={0,50703} *ACTIVE*
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Optimus	false
AMD switchable	false
Desktop compositing	Aero Glass
Direct composition	true
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YUY2 overlay support	SOFTWARE
NV12 overlay support	SCALING
BGRA8 overlay support	SOFTWARE
RGB10A2 overlay support	SOFTWARE
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Max. MSAA samples	8
Machine model name	
Machine model version	
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Direct rendering version	unknown
Reset notification strategy	0x8252
GPU process crash count	0
gfx::BufferFormats supported for allocation and texturing	R_8: not supported, R_16: not supported, RG_88: not supported, BGR_565: not supported, RGBA_4444: not supported, RGBX_8888: not supported, RGBA_8888: not supported, BGRX_8888: not supported, BGRA_1010102: not supported, RGBA_1010102: not supported, BGRA_8888: not supported, RGBA_F16: not supported, YVU_420: not supported, YUV_420_BIPLANAR: not supported, P010: not supported
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GpuMemoryBuffers Status
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Device Performance Information
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6. Headphones with Fiio K5Pro

7.

hfgeienlihckogmohjhadlkjgocpleb : Nettmarked : version 0_2
jffbochibkahlbbmanpmndnhmeliecah : Vivaldi Picture-In-Picture : version 1_0
kmendfapggjehodndflmmgagdbamhnfd : CryptoTokenExtension : version 0_9_74
mhjfbmdgcfjbbpaeojofohoefgiehjai : Chromium PDF Viewer : version 1
mpognobbkildjkofajifpdfhcoklimli : Vivaldi : version 1_5
nkeimhogjdpnpccoofpliimaahmaaome : Google Hangouts : version 1_3_16
pkedcjkdefgpdelpbcmbmeomcjbeemfm : Chrome Media Router : version 9021_222_0_0

8. Bitdefender Total Security 2021, latest update

9. all videos in www.youtube.com

10.

vivaldi://flags/#ignore-gpu-blacklist: doesn't show anything (not listed)
vivaldi://flags/#disable-accelerated-video-decode: Enabled

11. Yes. Didn't work

12. Yes, same issue.

13. When playing video on youtube the video is "jerky" (nearest description is it running at 10-15 fps.). This is when video is played in cinematic view or fullscreen. Not an issue when default view. If mouse cursor is active above video playback area the FPS goes back to normal.

TbGbe · Win: Snapshot Vivaldi 7.4.3671.3

@falck said in Youtube video lagging:

vivaldi://flags/#ignore-gpu-blacklist: doesn't show anything (not listed)

Should be vivaldi://flags/#ignore-gpu-blocklist

But looking at output from #5, I suspect activating this flag is unnecessary.

Catweazle

For me, YT also needs much time to load, because of this, I use Freetube desktop client, with this the vids loads blazing fast. I think the cause is a bad optimized design of the YT page, not the vids, OS or Vivaldi itself.

Falck

Update:

Used AMD Driver Cleaner tool and then reinstalled graphicscard driver again and now it seems to work

Catweazle

@falck , yes, important to have updated drivers

Falck

The drivers are the same.

The weird thing is i tried Chrome at the same time Vivaldi had problems, but Chrome didn't have the issue.

Falck

That I understand. I'm just happy the problem is resolved ️ but I still think it's weird, would think it's the same calls to the driver for the same video with same settings?

Falck

@gwen-dragon Well, something with the driver fixed the issue.

As I've stated before, I had both Vivaldi and Chrome installed at the same time on the same machine. When streaming YT videos Vivaldi had issues, but Chrome didn't.

Driver cleanup, with standalone program from AMD, fixed Vivaldi, my question now is why would streaming YT videos with Chrome work as expected, but Vivaldi needed me to clean drivers to get a smooth experience?

But, I agree, the issue seems to be resolved atm. I'm just curious as to why it happened

Catweazle

@falck , one reason may be that YT is owned by Google and lags all other which don`t use certain Google APIs.

Catweazle

We already know the "benefits" of Google's business policy and its commitment that everyone uses Chrome, or in its defect Firefox (also owned by Google.)
I don't think it's because of the codecs, since there is no problem viewing the videos on CloudTube or FreeTube in the same format.

Jamesyjames

Hi @catweazle, am I mistaken that you think Google owns Firefox?
My heart skipped a beat when I read that I know they have an agreement (and money is paid so) that Firefox uses Google Search as it's default search engine, but that's where it ends - Mozilla owns Firefox, and you can change the default search engine on Firefox if you want

Catweazle

@jamesyjames , sadly true, simply entering Mozilla, to download FF, they put a tracker from Alphabet INC, a Google advertising company, FF also uses various Google APIs.
Moreover, in TOS DR an account in FF receives category D (the worst), the same as Google and Fakebook.
Everyone talks about using a de-googled Chromium, but no one about using a de-googled FF, or fork, believing that because it is OpenSource it is more private or secure.
Chromium is FOSS and also the APIs from Google, Facebook and Amazon, included in a lot of OpenSource apps

Jamesyjames

@catweazle aawww mannnn , thanks for the heads-up. Feels like such a constant battle trying to keep my privacy rights. More and more it seems like monopolies are just getting too dictatorial.
At this point I'm almost willing to roll back to an older pc backup to see if I can get V or CT working well, just concerned that my pc is old and I don't feel like dealing with issues that could arise.
Did you say you use CT on V?

Catweazle

@jamesyjames CloudTube? yes, also yewtube, another privacy front-end of YT, if one of them fails, some public instances can fail ocasionally.
In browsers I prefer, apart from Vivaldi, others made in Europe, they are better in privacy because the EU privacy norm, which don't exist in the US and less in China (Opera)

Falck

Found the setting that makes video lag!

It's the Radeon Anti-Lag feature, ironically! When enabled youtube lags! When disabled it's smooth!