Search not working properly & emails sent to self are very strange
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I have some problems with search results. I wonder if I am missing something or if this is a bug, and if it is, whether it is known.
Vivaldi 3.6.2137.3, Prefetch is on for all my accounts, I have also viewed the corresponding messages to make sure the body is downloaded, and I have restarted Vivaldi since receiving the mails.
Two very simple emails with key words that I don't have in other mails yield strange search results:
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Email sent from someone else (not an own account). Subject "bourbon", body "whiskey".
--> email shows in unread & received but searching in Received will find the email when searching for "bourbon" but not when searching for "whiskey". I copied the word from the email body -
Email sent from M3 to M3 (sent and received using same vivaldi.net account). Mail subject is "hummingbird", body is empty
--> the email does NOT show up in All messages -> received at all (no filtering), but it does show in All messages -> unread, All messages -> Sent, All accounts -> vivaldi.net, All accounts -> vivaldi.net -> Inbox, All accounts -> vivaldi.net -> Sent
--> searching for "hummingbird" doesn't find the email in any view.
--> Clicking on the email in any of the views where it appears says that the mail is in Inbox and Sent, as if that was the same item?! The sent email should be a different file than the received one, shouldn't it? -
Like 2. but this time the email was sent from M3 using my web.de account to M3 (vivaldi.net account). Mail subject is again "hummingbird", body is again empty
--> the email again does NOT show up in All messages -> received but all the other views, as described in 2).
--> searching for "hummingbird" does find this email in the views where it shows up this time.
--> Clicking on the email in any of the views where it appears again says that the mail is in Inbox and Sent, as if that was the same item?! Looking at the raw message the sent email doesn't contain the entire server stuff whereas the email in INBOX does, so it seems M3 can't decide whether it's the same file or not.
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@kai why not use empty mail bodies?
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Having similar strange issues with search.
Some e-mails i send from my work computer are not appearing in the sent folder when i search for the subject, BUT they do appear if i search for them in sent folder from my HOME pc. ShenanigansThey will also appear on my work PC if i delete my gmail account and add it back again (not sure what the heck is happening, but something is clearly wrong)
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@hickz but the email is in the sent folder? i.e. you see the email in the list, but entering search terms you see, it disappears? Or is the email not in your sent in the first place?
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@WildEnte
Correct, it is in the sent folder, but as soon as i try to search for it in the search field, it doesn't appear in the search result. -
@hickz that sounds exactly like what I am seeing. But I have noticed this problem only with my IMAP account on vivaldi.net, on other accounts I have not yet seen searches come out empty.
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@WildEnte
Getting this with gmail IMAP account. -
bugged as VB-75874
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Bumping this thread because I have seen https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/56455/mails-missing-in-mailing-lists/3 reports emails missing (there: mailing list mails) - I don't necessarily think the two issues are the same but they may be related.
Search 1 for "bourbon" finds an email that also contains the word "whiskey".
Search 2 adding "whiskey" to the search terms does not find that email any longer (leaving out "bourbon" it still doesn't show up but I seem to talk about whiskey more often than bourbon so not good to show on the screenshot)
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@wildente You may need to re-index your mail store.
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Hm I followed what @gmg said in another thread about re-indexing. I should read more carefully next time - I left prefetching on in all accounts, it seems that all email is downloaded again, yey
I wonder how to reindex based on the locally stored files.
Anyway. Did that, let it prefetch and index and all that and same thing. I have sent a new mail with some animated gifs to the bug mail VB-75874 which illustrates the issue better than the description and screenshots.
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Hm. Can't reproduce that problem here. All of my fetched/downloaded emails are found on search.
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@ayespy If you look at the animated gifs I sent: I believe at least part of the problem is related to emails that I sent to myself, so they appear both in some SENT and INBOX (typical things I did over the years to test stuff with test strings... like 'shrubbery' and 'bourbon' that I don't otherwise receive in emails)
All mails that do not show up in searches where they should are listed in at least two imap folders. I suspected deduplication before
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@gmg @Ayespy OK I got it, 4 bug reports from the past can be linked to this one which is finally reproducible: VB-79700 with video attached
Steps to reproduce:
- Have a fresh IMAP email account with 0 emails in any IMAP folder
- Start with a fresh profile
- Enable Mail client in vivaldi://experiments, restart
- Set up the email account in M3, set to prefetch all messages (or not, doesn't matter)
- check that there are 0 emails
- send an email from this email account to this same email account
- Receive the email you just to yourself
- the received email shows in unread and the IMAP INBOX, but not in Received VB-74552
- Deleting the email has very funky effects VB-75873
- Search for a word in the body doesn't work properly (this is not entirely reproducible, might need some attempts) VB-75874
- The total number of messages calculated from number of sent items plus number in inbox = account total etc. doesn't add up VB-79663
I suspect the deduplication algorithm
The video attached to the bug report shows all the above mentioned effects above.
EDIT: oh and I found a new one ... "mark as read button does not appear in unread view". Shown in the video. Not sure I can actually reproduce that one.
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@wildente restoring from disk through local accounts is next on the list. We're currently able to import from M2, but not from other clients yet.
But if you didn't delete all the local files (Mail files) then it should just reuse those and doesn't need to download the body again after deleting the db (re-indexing).
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@gmg thanks - I got all the mails I need, import from M2 is certainly more important for most people at this point.
My main pain comes from VB-79700 (Mails sent to self causes problems) which I recommend gets solved before leaving the experimental stage.
Also thanks for giving updates here in the forum - much appreciated.
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Search function for me just stopped working, it returns no results. On Vivaldi 4.0, not on the Snapshot. @Ayespy suggests to "re-index your mail store". How does one do that? Removing and readding my accounts? I just did that a few days ago to get sending to work! (that was https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/62556/emails-are-not-sent )
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@felagund No, not removing and re-adding accounts.
Simply close Vivaldi and delete or rename (gawd, I hope I'm getting this right - I've only ever had to do it once) C:\Users(YOU)\AppData\Local\Vivaldi\User Data\Default\Storage\ext\mpognobbkildjkofajifpdfhcoklimli
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@wildente I have problems with email search as well. I won't go into detail here except to say that search is missing some items & including some items that seem irrelevant to the criteria. But for the moment, let me ask a question.
If I was to focus on [All Messages] and go to search bar to find an email somewhere in one of my email accounts, what criteria would I enter? A word in the subject line, words from the body, an email name, an email address? I repeated that focused on the email account in which I knew the message existed; In all cases I got zip, zilch, nada as a return. I'm very willing to stipulate that I may be doing something wrong or understand but what?
What data is that Search function searching? From reading in some Vivaldi article, it's supposed to be just about everything.... but I don't see evidence of that. Any thoughts, suggestions, settings?
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@janrif Here is some info on the search functionality - if you use the search field it should find strings in header and body. https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/62501/folder-hierarchy-fails-to-reflect-structure-on-server/12?_=1624029656627
Search should find everything, it did so in M2, and if it has some issues now those will (should/must?) be fixed before we leave beta.
I think there is still some bug(s) in search and indexing. Bug VB-79700 "Mails sent to self makes many things erratic" makes it really hard for me to do proper testing on the search part, like that "whiskey bourbon" example above that I have bugged as VB-75874. I just never know whether the oddity I am looking at is due to VB-79700 or something I should look into more.
I asked for the status of VB-79700 a while ago, it was not assigned at that point, so I patiently wait.