What’s Vivaldi’s business model?

Dancer18

I like this model very much. Working with Vivaldi give me a similar good feeling like when I changed my OS from Windows to Linux.

anonysubscribe

am moving rom gmail and yahoo mail to you as they steal our date and inancial data and passwords it seems. moving from google as well. it seems some other search engines also sell data.

jarpatus

Short story: I want to pay, plz make it possible.

Long story: I installed Vivaldi few days ago and been exploring it for a while. So almost every problem I have with Chrome or FF I have been able to resolve just by doing some trivial settings. Just what I was looking for. Also I feel that there is huge need for privacy aware browsers as Google's true interest is definitely not privacy (and I just do not like FF for some weird reason). Hence I feel Vivaldi, among some other software I use, should be considered critical from perspective of privacy and freedom.

Hence, I would gladly subscribe for some reasonable amount of money like €20/year or so. Like I subscribe some other services (like password manager I use etc.) even though I do not even need paid features and even though I could get them for free from Google or FF. It would be nice to get some extra of course but I would pay even if I would not.

Ps. Since you asked in previous posts, I would prefer PayPal. I do not use Patreon (perhaps I should) and I try to minimize number of sites having my credit card info and PayPal is quite nice solution for that.

Catweazle

@jarpatus , donations have already been proposed in various threads, and they have always been rejected. You can help Vivaldi, promoting it among your friends and acquaintances, use the sponsor links or buy some items in the Vivaldi Store.

code3

@jofazepa said in What’s Vivaldi’s business model?:

@OlgaA what do you, and Vivaldi, think about web monetization approaches like coil.com?

Oh, could be a good idea

@marcusquinn said in What’s Vivaldi’s business model?:

Nice, appreciate the transparency. How about a button in the settings to restore or update your Startpage Bookmarks for those of us that deleted and not feel guilty?

Doesn’t look like you’re online anymore, but I believe there is an extension in the chrome web store for this.

code3

@jarpatus said in What’s Vivaldi’s business model?:

Since you asked in previous posts, I would prefer PayPal. I do not use Patreon (perhaps I should) and I try to minimize number of sites having my credit card info and PayPal is quite nice solution for that.

Or.. Cryptocurrency! Then no one has your credit card and they cannot take money from a cryptocurrency account like they can from a credit card.

I think paying could be a great idea with some extra features:
More storage and features for Vivaldi services
VIP Newsletter
Preview new Vivaldi designs
Vivaldi Merch
A small amount of exclusive features
Vivaldi Gold that can be used for other perks? — make it interactive
Or just a donation - I think users are happy to donate even if you don’t want to accept donations

Payment platforms:
Coil.com
Nimiq
Stripe
PayPal

code3

@christian said in What’s Vivaldi’s business model?:

Good to know. If others would like to chime in here, I'm game

It’s a shame this has not been implemented yet.

I think there should be two options:
Either Patreon or Buy Me A Coffee
And an inbuilt system that includes PayPal, Stripe, and cryptocurrency.

I think Patreon allows to give subscribers exclusive content so it may be a good option.

paul1149

A really great business model, I must say, and I thank you. Can you add Qwant to your search partners?

Catweazle

@code3
More storage and features for Vivaldi services
Maybe good for Enterprise use not needed for normal use
VIP Newsletter
There always newsletters with new things of Vivaldi
Preview new Vivaldi designs
Which you can have with the snapshot version
Vivaldi Merch
You can buy in the Vivaldi store
A small amount of exclusive features
which Vivaldi always has by default
Vivaldi Gold that can be used for other perks? — make it interactive
Even more?

code3

@catweazle You are right, a donation system is probably best.

Though there could still be a monthly VIP newsletter. The current newsletter is not that exciting, doesn't get into many details of Vivaldi, and supposedly it's main purpose is to advertise to non-users.

Catweazle

@code3, Ok, donations in my opinion would be the only feasible thing, the rest is rather counterproductive. Pretty hard I already have to convince FOSS freaks that Vivaldi is a 95% OpenSource (as much as Trace in GitHub) even already used in Linux distros, such as FerenOS, where it comes as a default browser , and not comparable to others defined like Freeware Proprietary Closed Source, like Chrome or Edge, to come up now that there is a premium version per cash, in this case they run straight away.

code3

@catweazle said in What’s Vivaldi’s business model?:

even already used in Linux distros, such as FerenOS

First of all, that doesn't really make sense, as putting proprietary software in a Linux Distro is a huge hassle.

Also...

Not Acceptable
An appropriate representation of the requested resource /index.html could not be found on this server.

Do you get the same error?

Ayespy

@paul1149 Vivaldi had an arrangement with Qwant some months (perhaps more than a year?) ago but Qwant began blocking Vivaldi as "out of date" and "possibly insecure" and that was the end of that. Qwant actively refused to correct this mal-coding for months. I don't know if they have cured that but, in the meantime, Vivaldi's UA now identifies as "Chromium," so Qwant lets it in anyway.

Catweazle

@code3 , where? on FerenOS? No, loading fine.
Why not, a lot off FOSS has some proprietary parts, APIs or use them. Nothing worth to be uses in larger apps is free from this.
Ok, Vivaldi is designed Proprietary Freeware, but it's in a limit where this designation don't make sense. When Trace and other soft with copyright or MIT Licenses can be in GitHub (Trace also has a closed and blocked part for payd premium version, but is in GitHub).
Maybe we need a new definition of OpenSource and diferencce between OSS and FOSS.
NASA also has a large catalog of OpenSource soft, but some of them restricted to goverment and cientific centers, not for public use, and other , realy FOSS for the free use for everyone (fE WorldWind and others9
There are a lot of OpenSource Licences include such with TM protection.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_free_and_open-source_software_licences
Its not so simple and the limits are often not so clear.

paul1149

@Ayespy Interesting. Thanks for that. Why on earth would qwant care which browsers are accessing its search function? I've never seen that before. This doesn't seem to make sense.

Ayespy

@paul1149 You're right, it doesn't. But multiple users reported it, and when Vivaldi approached Qwant to get it fixed, they were not interested.

paul1149

@Ayespy That would be enough for me to switch back to DDG, except that I found them censoring certain political images during the last election, and when I brought it to their attention there was no response.

Catweazle

@paul1149 , I'm happy with Whoogle

paul1149

@catweazle Interesting. Thanks.

danielson

@catweazle - Whoogle is interesting!

Presearch?
https://presearch.org

-(never had issues with Qwant - but use Presearch and DDG more these days - Whoogle might make me change that habit).