Increase Max Width of Vertical Tab Bar
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Just adding my voice to ask for this too. Setting any pixel limit on this (to me anyway) makes absolutely no sense.
Why can't it just be allowed to open quite literally to the entire width of the browser window if people wish to?
Admittedly yes that wouldn't be of much use to anyone as then how do you see the browser page however if it had no physical hard stop limit set to 260 or whatever then people with large monitors / resolutions would be able to drag it out to whatever width they like and all the browser has to do is remember what width they dragged to.
If the user doesn't want it too large then it's totally up to them to just set it to whatever width they want surely? If the browser remembers where they've set it then this surely doesn't put anyone out at all and caters for all users?Please do put me correct if this would cause issues for any users as I have honestly wracked my brains and can't think of any reason why it would?
Thank you in advance for considering this.Best wishes,
Mark
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@markbowendesign , thank you for your reply and vote. These are precisely my thoughts, as well. I suspect that the initial limit of 260px was set by omission because vertical tabs were not the first priority and for horizontal tabs it doesn't matter anyway. Then later, once people started complaining, the problem didn't gather much public interest and that's why the company assigned low priority to the request.
Frankly, I think the fix for this is trivial. Just set the max to the width of the screen and it'll work for everyone.
Probably not many people are even aware of the vertical tabs. I still remember vertical tabs from the ancient days of Netscape Navigator. They were very useful even then! However, younger people may have never experienced vertical tabs. That may explain low interest.
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@Tinsmith Thank you for sharing
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Just upgraded to Vivaldi 3.7.2218.45 . A lot of improvements! However, the vertical tab bar width is still limited to 260 pixels.
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@Tinsmith said in Increase Max Width of Vertical Tab Bar:
Just upgraded to Vivaldi 3.7.2218.45 . A lot of improvements! However, the vertical tab bar width is still limited to 260 pixels.
Bumping up the topic.I did too, and faced the same disapointement.
Is it a complex issue to fix for the devs, or is it just not having enough atttention ? (I have no skills in CSS nor dev, so I can't state how difficult it is to lift this limitation)NB: See also this thread on the same subject.
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Vivaldi Developers: Please either remove the current width limit of the vertical tabs area or let us specify a custom value for it.
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We should be able to increase the overall size as well. With a 4K monitor both width and height is too small.
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Just received the 3.8 update. The browser is getting better overall, which is good.
However, this silly limit of 260 pixels width for the vertical tab bar is still there.
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@Tinsmith Agreed, it is hard to see why this has not been done yet. It should be Easy to Implement.
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@Pesala The problem is it need to be implant with floating capability like floating panel in order to resolve small window webpage display area problem. Else, another solution would be introduce auto-shrinking tabbar to favicon feature during small window width.
I have made CSS mod try to resolve these problems, but none of them can be consider satisfaction solution for me. Especially when you throw 2 level tab stacking into the mix, it become even more complicated mess. If they indeed working on this, it will take times to iron out all the little problems come with this changes, it need to fit all windows sizes & work well with other GUI.
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@dude99 I don't see why. If people are using narrow windows without a floating panel, then they will not want a very wide vertical tab bar.
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@Pesala The point is preserving accessibility of all elements at all time, you don't want to design a set of GUI that constantly contradicting with each other. We all don't use the browser exactly the same way, & sometimes we don't maximized all the apps we are using, thus GUI designer need to make sure their GUI will work properly in most window sizes.
For example, the main purpose of web browser is to display the webpage, yes? So the top priority should be preserving webpage display most of the time, but that would contradict with a tabbar that constantly took out let say 600px out of a 1200px window width... that means most of the time user can only access 50% of the window for webpages - that's not what most people wanted, & the end result is user have to constantly adjusting the tabbar width. Then, it lead to another problem: webpage will also resize as user resizes the tabbar, which causing the webpage viewing position & content to change, & this is absolutely annoying & counter intuitive for those who need to switch focus between tabbar & webpage constantly.
The solution? A floating tabbar that will shrink into favicon size when user don't need it. The webpage's position & content aren't affected by the changes of tabbar width, thus no more unnecessary confusion!
This is basically what Edge did with their vertical tabbar, & if Vivaldi still dragging their feet refuse to resolve this problem ASAP, Edge will claimed vertical tabbar as their new innovative feature justly (IMHO), because they managed to perfected the feature when no none willing to do so.
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@dude99 There is no need to treat users like idiots. Let them use half of the window width if they want. All that is asked is to remove the limits. Then, if someone wants to use a wide tab bar on an ultra-wide monitor they can.
Clearly, anyone like me using a portrait monitor will not set the width to much more than the current maximum.
A floating tab bar would offer more flexibility, but it is not a high priority.
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Maximum width was increased by a ~ +40% with today's Snapshot.
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@npro I just updated to Vivaldi 4.0. Yes, it's now 360 pixels. A bit better, but why not to make it similar to panels? I guess we'll have to wait until Vivaldi 7.0 to get decent width for vertical tabs...
For comparison, Microsoft Edge allows vertical tabs to be resized up to ~50% of the main window. It is a mystery why Vivaldi insists on such narrow tab pane.
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As of Vivaldi 4.3 the vertical tab width is still quite narrow - 360px. Please increase it to higher value.
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As of Vivaldi 5.0 the vertical tab width is still quite narrow - 360px. Please increase it to higher value.
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For anyone on vivaldi 5.2 and up trying to apply the changes in bundle.js, after looking around, they have messed it up further and decreased the total width allowed to 330!
Here's what need to be changed in bundle.js:
- find all values 330 hard-coded:
- in the whole block of functions setTabBarWidth and setInnerTabBarWidth, change it to the max width you want (I set it to 720 on my 4k monitor)
- the 330 value is present in this block in some conditions (e.g. Bie>o&&o<330) and also setting it as the maximum possible value (e.g. Math.min(e-s.left,330))
- find the same old value 360 in both places as in the first post:
- close to the property "kTabsActiveMinSize", the same "maxWidth:360"
- close to a state "tabStripOverflow" and the same "(t,n,360)" as in first post
Hope this helps someone else, the 5.2 was painful without it for me!
- find all values 330 hard-coded:
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@hazilo Thank you for the update. I upgraded to 5.2, but didn't have time to update the top post in this topic.
I figured out the new limit of 330px, as well. This hardcoded limit is quite ridiculous. I still don't understand the reason for its existence. Why not to let people resize the tab pane the same we as other panels?
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