Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview
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@mib2berlin thanks very much - wasn't aware of that. it expresses really quite well what I've been finding in my first couple of days of trying out the mail client. incessant need to / uncertainty over how to minimize the sidebar. hope the discussion happens - maybe "mail in a window" is not the right solution but how it's currently done is confusing (at least to me).
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@aja said in Introducing Vivaldi Mail in Technical Preview:
- the hidden dropdown arrows next to "Filters" and "Flags" (for example) are a bit painful. you have to be moused over the item before you see the arrow, and then you have to go click on it. better just allow the item once highlighted to perform the expand/collapse action, or put the arrow to the left of the title (which would be consistent with the Account expanders).
Yeah, I was confused a bit by this the first time as well.
- This is probably impossible, but it would be good if the mail interface could use keyboard shortcuts that are already used for other purposes out in the browser.
I discussed this in https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/53839/focus-issues-using-keyboard - it's currently very difficult using keyboard to browse and open feed articles...
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@mossman agree, and that post makes another aspect clearer. I've managed, over time, to get gmail to an almost mouse-free state; I don't see this as being easy with the V mail client. But I also hadn't twigged that the various keyclicks in the keyboard settings couldn't be reused between sections.
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hi everyone, how can i get notified once gmail account can be added to vivaldi mail client with oAuth?
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I've been eagerly awaiting this since first learning of Vivaldi. Grateful thanks to the development team and volunteers!
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@Gwen-Dragon I added a report over here, any ideas? https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/54990/error-during-threading-means-no-more-fetching/2
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@Gwen-Dragon i tried the same without success, have you enabled google account access to less secure apps?
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@Gwen-Dragon Thanks for the help!
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@Gwen-Dragon how to contact google support? haven't done till yet.
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hi @JON & everyone else, how secure and private is the vivaldi mail client?
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@Abhimanyu I'm sorry, but this is a question that cannot be answered. Vivaldi email client only fetches and syncs emails. Nothing else. It cannot otherwise interact with the web unless/until you interact with content of an email. And it has no control over that.
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@Abhimanyu The Vivaldi Mail client also (by default) does not load any external content in messages. That is why there is no option in Mail Settings to disable loading of images, etc.
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@xyzzy Is it the external content that can potentially be malicious and insecure?
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@Abhimanyu Very rarely, the actual body of an email can contain malicious content - usually, even in such a case, you will have to interact with the email content to activate the threat. Much more usually, either external content or a link you are invited to follow is where malicious or insecure code is to be found.
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@guigirl I'm with you. I definitely need client-side hierarchical folder structure in place before I can migrate.
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And labels don't fit the bill for me. I have about 1000 email folders, nested up to 10 levels deep. Many of my folders have the same name, disambiguated by their parent folder. For example, I have (intentionally) identically named folders for most classes I teach: assignments, lectures, examples, etc. If I switch to labels, in order to keep my hierarchies, I would have to put the name of each ancestor folder of a folder in the label, which would result in some ridiculously long labels that simply wouldn't work for me.
I don't technically need folders per se. If labels could be structured hierarchically, that works. For those of you familiar with the reference manager Zotero, what it calls collections are basically nested labels, and that solution works fine for me.
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@Abhimanyu At the very least, loading remote content can be a privacy exposure. The remote content can also potentially be a malicious, targeted attack. (I have seen spam emails that contain nothing but remote content and some phishing emails that employed some extremely insidious tricks.) It's rarely necessary to load remote content, and I would only do so if I absolutely needed to, and only if I trusted the sender... and if it does not scare the crap out of me when I view the raw message.
Is it the external content that can potentially be malicious and insecure?
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@libcub I don't think you understand how much better the database method works than the old fashioned manual sorting you are describing.
It's not about labels at all - the mail can be displayed and grouped according to any combination of terms (in subject or message) and/or contacts you can think of. And if you regularly scan through the same type of list then you can save and reuse any of those searches.
On top of that, it does already take the folder hierarchy found on an IMAP server. But I literally have never had a use for that, in fact I've picked up some default folders over the years - maybe from the service, maybe from a mail client - which popped up in Vivaldi, and I only recently realised I should probably delete these as they are just unnecessary clutter.
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@mossman So thinking about your use case, you could make a contact list for each class, then (I would assume) you have the term 'assignment' etc. somewhere in the title or text of the mails relevant to assignments. In that case it's a second's work to open the contact list filter for class X and search for "assignment" - or even a specific named assignment - and you'll instantly get everyone's correspondence on that topic.
And you can augment that by adding specific labels or IMAP folders as you like.
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@mossman Heh heh!
So having gone to the website and deleted all those empty redundant folders I never use - they are instantly re-instated. Now I don't know if it's Vivaldi, K-9 on my phone or Hotmail that's creating them but why on Earth do I have, for example, a "spam" folder (redundant) when there is a "junk" folder used by Hotmail? There are NINE of these totally unnecessary folders wasting screen space and no clue why.
I find these IMAP folders a pain in the arse!
