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    Vivaldi M3 - mail client, when?

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    • schreck
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      schreck
      last edited by A Former User

      when will the integrated mail client be available for testing? i am waiting since vivaldi came out and still no sign..

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      • Ayespy
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        Ayespy Soprano Moderator
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        The won't say. Period. You will know about the release date ON the release date, the same as every other feature. They accidentally released a very early version of it about 3 months ago to some users. I still have that install file on my hard drive. It was a working version, but clearly not ready for prime time. However, it was functional enough that I can say with some certainty that when they promise a mail client they are not just blowing smoke.

        Volunteer Mod and tester on Windows 11 Home X64, i7-13700 @ 5.4 GHz turbo; Intel UHD 770 graphics; 1TB NV2 PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD; 32 GB DDR4-3200 RAM. Community Code of Conduct

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          kryksyh
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          I still have that install file on my hard drive
          Really? Can you share it? If so, please mail it to [email protected].

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          • schreck
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            schreck
            last edited by

            number one reason for me to still use opera 12, but its getting annoying with lots of pages have major flaws.
            when the mailpart is out i am switching instantly, not earlier..

            man, when will this be ready? :dry:

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            • J.M.Mierscheid
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              J.M.Mierscheid
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              I've never understood why it's so importand to so many user to have an e-mail client integrated into their browser.

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              • Ayespy
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                Ayespy Soprano Moderator
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                It's a matter of efficiency and work flow. You are not required to understand it. Even were I to explain my work flow to you, you would still have to watch me for a day to understand why built in email makes a measurable difference.

                Volunteer Mod and tester on Windows 11 Home X64, i7-13700 @ 5.4 GHz turbo; Intel UHD 770 graphics; 1TB NV2 PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD; 32 GB DDR4-3200 RAM. Community Code of Conduct

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                • schreck
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                  schreck
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                  @J.M.Mierscheid:

                  I've never understood why it's so importand to so many user to have an e-mail client integrated into their browser.

                  and you really dont have to.

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                  • J.M.Mierscheid
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                    J.M.Mierscheid
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                    @schreck:

                    and you really dont have to.

                    Was interessiert mich deine Meinung?

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                    • Topha
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                      Topha
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                      Although I, too, will be very happy when the mail client finally arrives it is probably a mercy of the dev team to wait this long.

                      Updating the Snapshot on an almost weekly basis would probably get a lot more complicated with an integrated mail client πŸ˜›

                      PS: I don't understand why so many people are not using a mail client at all but prefer logging into their web mail all the time πŸ™‚ And don't blame the users for going "when when when", blame the Vivaldi team for announcing the mail client on the very release day of TP1 πŸ˜‰

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                        zhnujm
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                        @GinoPerla:

                        They also announced the Sync, no one is asking about the Sync that much.
                        The Vivaldi team just said there will be an integrated Email client,
                        How would you blame them for saying so?

                        Well, theres a mail panel sice the beginning wich says "Comig soon" wich may lead some people to think that a mail client is coming soon….. πŸ˜‰

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                          zhnujm
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                          I dont think its about lying or something its just what most people expect about "soon",
                          Maybe a "Coming later" would reduce the expectations a bit.
                          Simple change. πŸ™‚

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                          • Ayespy
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                            Ayespy Soprano Moderator
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                            I disagree that it will be released in the Beta. A new feature of such magnitude would not make its first appearance in a Beta, but rather in a developer Snapshot so that it can get some broad public testing prior to Beta release. This means it will be released BEFORE the Beta, in at least a couple of Snapshots, or will be released after some public testing and debugging, in the second Beta.

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                            • schreck
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                              schreck
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                              im in for testing the mail client if in need.

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                              • Ayespy
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                                Ayespy Soprano Moderator
                                last edited by

                                Me, too. I'd even love to test it if it's a technical disaster at this point.

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                                • mib2berlin
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                                  mib2berlin Soprano
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                                  Hi, Beta meant Feature Complete but likely to contain a number of known or unknown bugs.
                                  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle)
                                  Vivaldi could release a closed Beta for example.

                                  Call me in, mib πŸ™‚

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                                  • Blackbird
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                                    Blackbird
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                                    If the web browser itself isn't fully stable or reasonably feature-complete at its basic levels, there seems little point in rushing to add a mail client on top of it. That can only complicate and delay stability solutions. I look at things this way: all of us have been getting by with regard to eMail clients in some way or another for a couple of years now… waiting some months more is not going to matter that much. Patience remains the watchword... the mail client will come.

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                                    • schreck
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                                      schreck
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                                      @schreck:

                                      i am waiting since vivaldi came out and still no sign..

                                      maybe they dont even work on it?
                                      would be nice to at least know, how the status is. not even a single word on this is strange.

                                      we would be all glad to bugtest it is normal users..

                                      so could anyone from the devs drop a line maybe?

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                                      • RVieira
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                                        RVieira
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                                        It is something that is definitely being worked on. Back in February, due to some sort of bug, the snapshot I installed had M3 available, as seen here: http://i.imgur.com/4OY3ziy.png . It was gone in the next update, but it used to work.

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                                        • Ayespy
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                                          Ayespy Soprano Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          It's definitely being worked on. A video was even posted, of the main EMail developer doing a powerpoint presentation of the technologies they are using, and why they chose each mail server access method, each database technology, etc.

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                                          • RVieira
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                                            RVieira
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                                            @Gwen-Dragon:

                                            I think the M3 you talk about got accidently into the wild.

                                            Trust me, cirrently there are some issues and missing features with M3, it is usable for testing but not really for using all the day!

                                            Yes, I'm pretty sure that's what happened – still, it means it is being built! πŸ™‚

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