3 things that work better in Vivaldi compared to Google Chrome
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@dshintag said in 3 things that work better in Vivaldi compared to Google Chrome:
I do wonder, though, why does Vivaldi - despite being built atop Chromium and using an unchanged user agent - still have all kinds of little compatibility issues with websites, where Chrome has none? Your UI is one of your biggest assets, miles ahead of Chrome, but I keep reporting bugs and incompatibilities, and this is becoming a bit exhausting...
Just like @Steffie I have no compatibility issues with websites whatsoever. In fact, Vivaldi is the browser I go to, when I simply have to view a broken and badly-coded web site.
The issue, 99% of the time, will not be with Vivaldi itself, because it uses Chromium's rendering engine as you rightly point-out. It will be lazy web-developers who do browser-sniffing, and refuse to show you a site if the browser's identification string doesn't match the latest version of Google Chrome exactly.
In old pre-evil Opera, you could get around this very easily with its "identify as" setting, which gave you the option of Internet Explorer, Netscape/Mozilla, or Opera. In Vivaldi there are user-agent switching extensions you can use, but you have to be careful to pick a regularly-updated one, or one that allows you to enter a custom string, so you don't accidentally identify as, for instance, Chrome 7 on Windows Vista.
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@jamesbeardmore said in 3 things that work better in Vivaldi compared to Google Chrome:
...It will be lazy web-developers who do browser-sniffing, and refuse to show you a site if the browser's identification string doesn't match the latest version of Google Chrome exactly.
I forgot to add, they could even be sending a bad version of the web site to "encourage" you to "upgrade" to their preferred browser, like MSN and Hotmail occasionally did with pre-evil Opera, or alternatively they could have separate stylesheets for all the major browsers, and take a guess with any browser that doesn't match. A site may therefore accidentally (and incorrectly) send Vivaldi the stylesheet for Mozilla or IE when it should send the Chrome one, because the developer isn't aware of Vivaldi but has decided to incorporate browser-specific code.
All I know is, whenever a site thinks that Vivaldi is just Chrome, it "just works" (TM).
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The boy is young and his amazement at Vivaldi's potential is understandable. The sad thing is that all this created decades ago with Opera, the real one, and was abandoned for Chrome, because they didn't understand its potential.
A little bit more speed and full Facebook compatibility were enough to get most people to adopt Chrome, a very sad period in the story.
Hopefully, many people will understand Vivaldi's potential and, as happened with @dolven, start using it. -
@dshintag Some (privacy) extensions mess with UA and some nasty sites could say "unsupported browser" via a pre-set cookie or other things. But in 99,9% cases, the chrome default string should prevent this.
@Folgore101 Well, the NewOpera only need a platform in which spread their services. And with Blink they can spend more resources on that. Sadly. Old users never been part of the project, it seems.
@jamesbeardmore Gecko was harder to mantain and suffered of performance issues when Vivaldi launched. The other reason why blink was chosen is the BSD is more permissive and have more people working on it.
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@Hadden89 said in 3 things that work better in Vivaldi compared to Google Chrome:
Old users never been part of the project, it seems
So true! We were all very slow to realise this, in the O15+ forum, as update after update rolled out yet never redressing our complaints & entreaties. Some of the online staff's posts' misdirections & obfuscations to us were astounding.
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@Steffie said in 3 things that work better in Vivaldi compared to Google Chrome:
in the O15+ forum, as update after update rolled out yet never redressing our complaints & entreaties
Do you remember they were saying that users don't need bookmarks...
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@Stardust Of course, they also said that too many functions confused users, which is why most of the old users abandoned them.
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But can you make Vivaldi not run 7x TIMES SLOWER than Chrome?
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@Kein 7 times.???
is there a technical test to prove this which you can provide...?.seems very precise..not 5 0r 6 but in fact SEVEN times..please tell. -
@Stardust said in 3 things that work better in Vivaldi compared to Google Chrome:
Do you remember they were saying that users don't need bookmarks..
Absolutely i do, yes. That was one of their herculean efforts in silliness & disingenuousness. They stonewalled for such an amazingly long time on that point alone.
I still recall my sense of stunned disbelief when i first installed O15. I just sat there, staring at it, with an internal voice repeatedly asking "wait... what, this is it? This? Where are all my settings & options?". Compare & contrast that emptiness to the richness of what we had right from the beginning in V TP1 -- chalk & cheese.
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@Steffie said in 3 things that work better in Vivaldi compared to Google Chrome:
I just sat there, staring at it, with an internal voice repeatedly asking "wait... what, this is it? This? Where are all my settings & options?"
Exactly! And then as an Opera refugee I had to switch to the Firefox...
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Hi,
Have you tested on a Clean Profile?
Whatever extrange behavior should be checked on a Clean environment.- "Right side" |
Rename it as Tests or something related, and use it as a Clean Profile, to test without custom configurations that can alter the original operation.
Since the result, check:
- Active Experiments
- Extensions - Tip
- Clean Cache
- Site Data
Or fill in a Bug Report.
Consider open a Topic and explain there if necessary.
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"Off Topic Tip"
Follow the Signature's Backup | Reset link.
Take the opportunity to start a Backup plan and even create a Template Profile.
Windows 7 (x64)
Vivaldi Back up | Reset -
@Steffie said in 3 things that work better in Vivaldi compared to Google Chrome:
@Stardust said in 3 things that work better in Vivaldi compared to Google Chrome:
Do you remember they were saying that users don't need bookmarks..
Absolutely i do, yes. That was one of their herculean efforts in silliness & disingenuousness. They stonewalled for such an amazingly long time on that point alone.
I still recall my sense of stunned disbelief when i first installed O15. I just sat there, staring at it, with an internal voice repeatedly asking "*wait... what, this is it?
Exactly. I genuinely almost thought it was a joke after all the build up about this amazing new step into the Chromosphere - they're pulling the leg of all the nay-sayers. Then I thought; well this must be just a REALLY early prototype with a bunch of features being finished for the true final release in a few weeks, right...?!?
Sadly not.
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@Stardust said in 3 things that work better in Vivaldi compared to Google Chrome:
@Steffie said in 3 things that work better in Vivaldi compared to Google Chrome:
I just sat there, staring at it, with an internal voice repeatedly asking "wait... what, this is it? This? Where are all my settings & options?"
Exactly! And then as an Opera refugee I had to switch to the Firefox...
I just never moved beyond O12... until the first public Vivaldi release. Hallelujah!
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@mossman said in 3 things that work better in Vivaldi compared to Google Chrome:
I just never moved beyond O12... until the first public Vivaldi release. Hallelujah!
Well, I had a problem with sites compatibility + security concerns. I still have Opera 12.18 portable somewhere.
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@Stardust Heehee...
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@Steffie this is epic! Good memories. I am too lazy to boot into the Windows, so here is a screenshot instead
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@Stardust OT [gasp!].
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Since i switched from win7 to Nix in 2014, & subsequently distro-hopped my way around, i have installed O12.16 in each of my on-SSD Nixes. As we all know, it's largely more sad than productive these days, yet i simply can't bear the thought of uninstalling it. I still hang on to my sliderule, my TI-59, & my O12 through thick & thin, despite none of them being actively in use for mega-yonks, simply because the idea of scrapping them seems like some kind of heinous technological crime.
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@stardust: Well, no need to drag and drop because in Chrome 87 they have added auto group functionality. Enable them under "chrome://flags/#tab-groups-auto-create".
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