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      ozone1979 @BoneTone
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      @bonetone Like what?

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        BoneTone @ozone1979
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        @ozone1979 Bookmarks clean up for one

        I post from my phone frequently, which likes to change "the" to "three". If you see three or similar, I probably meant "the". I use swipe, so typos can be totally unrelated words to what I intended. Knowing this should help you read through my typos.

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          ozone1979 @BoneTone
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          @bonetone I just installed Bookmarks clean up and tested it.
          Indeed, it does see the Mobile Bookmarks folder.
          It seems that the native Bookmarks Manager is focused on a specific folder of Bookmarks, not allowing us to access the "Other Bookmarks" and "Mobile Bookmarks". Other than finding some plugin that will might allow us to manage these, there's no other way of doing this, correct?

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            BoneTone @ozone1979
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            @ozone1979 said in How access "Mobile bookmarks" from Desktop?:

            there's no other way of doing this

            Doing what exactly?

            Personally, the way I handle my bookmarks is that I have a folder positioned at the top of the list in the root called ^ Work Marks ^. On my phone, when I'm saving a series of bookmarks I'll create a new folder in there to hold them. Having the ^ Work Marks ^ folder at the top of the list, which the ^ character makes it alphabetically sort ahead of numbers and letters, makes it very quick to access.

            So I'll create the first bookmark, edit it, create a new folder inside the work marks folder, and save the bookmark. Then all subsequent bookmarks that are created will be saved into the new folder I just created until I either save a bookmark into a different folder, or kill the app.

            Then on my desktop, I can process those bookmarks into the main tree structure where I think they belong. Sometimes that means I drag the folder I created to wherever I want it, other times I drag the bookmarks themselves into an existing folder and delete the folder from inside work marks.

            My mobile bookmarks are mostly just for the Mobile Speed Dial. Sometimes, when I'm lazy and don't want to deal with creating a new folder at the moment, I will save a series of bookmarks without modifying the folder. This will put them all into the mobile bookmarks root. At some point later, on my phone I just browse my bookmarks, navigate to the root of my mobile bookmarks, and then multiselect the series of bookmarks (press and hold on the first one, then tap each other bookmark that you want to move into the same folder). Once I've selected all the bookmarks that I want to group together, I click the move icon at the top right and move them to wherever they need to go -- sometimes a new folder in work marks, sometimes directly into some existing folder in my main tree. Bookmarks created close to each other time will be grouped together in the mobile bookmarks folder.

            That's a little extra work, the ideal thing is to save associated bookmarks into a common folder when they are created. Hope this helps, let me know if you've got any questions.

            I post from my phone frequently, which likes to change "the" to "three". If you see three or similar, I probably meant "the". I use swipe, so typos can be totally unrelated words to what I intended. Knowing this should help you read through my typos.

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              @bonetone If I have a lot of Mobile Bookmarks already, how do I (from my desktop) easily access or transfer them to another folder?

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                BoneTone @ozone1979
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                @ozone1979 Shrug, lemme know what you find out. I'd start by looking at the various bookmark managers and utilities in the Chrome store for something that mentions mobile bookmarks. Do some web searches on it as well. I'd be surprised if there was nothing that enables that, I just haven't had the need so I haven't investigated it myself. Though knowing about it would certainly be useful, for helping others and if I ever come across this scenario down the line.

                FWIW, I've used the processes I described to move literally hundreds of bookmarks at a time from the mobile to regular on my phone. In total I must have moved thousands if not tens of thousands of bookmarks from the mobile bookmarks root.

                I post from my phone frequently, which likes to change "the" to "three". If you see three or similar, I probably meant "the". I use swipe, so typos can be totally unrelated words to what I intended. Knowing this should help you read through my typos.

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                  mib2berlin Soprano
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                  Hi, are you speak about the same thing?
                  If the devices are synced you can use desktop bookmark panel to work on mobile bookmarks easy, add, move or delete in the Android folder.
                  No need for an extension.

                  Cheers, mib

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                  Redmi Note 14, HyperOS Android 14

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                    ozone1979 @mib2berlin
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                    @mib2berlin That's not correct for bookmarks saved in the "Mobile Bookmarks" folder.
                    The desktop bookmarks panel does not have access to that folder, only the "Bookmarks" folder.

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                      BoneTone @mib2berlin
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                      @mib2berlin That would be cool, but it appears that we are not speaking about the same thing, unless you've done something to enable that access. I have the bookmarks panel open most of the time. We're not talking about an Android folder, but rather the "Mobile Bookmarks" folder that is a sibling of the "Bookmarks" folder. For me, the panel shows the contents of the "Bookmarks" folder and not the folder itself. Which means the "Mobile Bookmarks" is a sibling above indirect ancestor of where the panel begins.

                      I post from my phone frequently, which likes to change "the" to "three". If you see three or similar, I probably meant "the". I use swipe, so typos can be totally unrelated words to what I intended. Knowing this should help you read through my typos.

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                        On Android the relationship looks like this...

                        Screenshot_20200210-165208_Vivaldi.jpg

                        I post from my phone frequently, which likes to change "the" to "three". If you see three or similar, I probably meant "the". I use swipe, so typos can be totally unrelated words to what I intended. Knowing this should help you read through my typos.

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                          mib2berlin Soprano @BoneTone
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                          @bonetone
                          Hm, I don´t have a "Mobile Bookmarks" folder , only a "Android" folder but I cant remember if I setup by myself. drunk
                          I use the snapshot version.

                          Cheers, mib

                          Opensuse Tumbleweed x86_64 KDE 6.2 X11, Windows 11 Pro, Vivaldi latest
                          HP Probook Intel(R) i5-8350U 16 GB, GPU UHD 620, SSD 256 GB
                          Miniforum-B550 AMD Ryzen 7 4700G 16 GB, Radeon Graphics
                          Redmi Note 14, HyperOS Android 14

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                            BoneTone @mib2berlin
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                            @mib2berlin I use both (Snapshot & Beta).

                            I would be surprised if you didn't create the Android folder. I don't know of any browser that uses that name instead of Mobile Bookmarks. Where is it located? Is it a child of Bookmarks or a sibling? If you're seeing it in the panel, that would indicate it's a child unless you're also seeing a singular Bookmarks of which all other folders are a child. Honestly, if that were true, I'd imagine still that was not the same thing as the root Bookmarks container in the JSON of the Bookmarks file itself.

                            I post from my phone frequently, which likes to change "the" to "three". If you see three or similar, I probably meant "the". I use swipe, so typos can be totally unrelated words to what I intended. Knowing this should help you read through my typos.

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                              mib2berlin Soprano @BoneTone
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                              @bonetone
                              Ah, I don´t use the "Mobile Bookmarks" folder at all, I create the "Android" folder in the regular "Bookmarks" folder. On desktop I copy some bookmarks in to the "Android" folder and mark it as speed dial folder on my mobile.

                              Cheers, mib

                              Opensuse Tumbleweed x86_64 KDE 6.2 X11, Windows 11 Pro, Vivaldi latest
                              HP Probook Intel(R) i5-8350U 16 GB, GPU UHD 620, SSD 256 GB
                              Miniforum-B550 AMD Ryzen 7 4700G 16 GB, Radeon Graphics
                              Redmi Note 14, HyperOS Android 14

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                                BoneTone @mib2berlin
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                                @mib2berlin if you ever create a bookmark on your mobile and can't find it, it defaults to the Mobile Bookmarks folder. There are some benefits to the folder being hidden on the desktop, for instance the Speed Dials you create inside there won't clutter the Speed Dials on your desktop. I use multiple Speed Dials on my desktop, you probably know that each folder you tag with the Speed Dial attribute shows up in the Start Page navigation where Speed Dial, Bookmarks, History are. My mobile speed dial is configured specifically for use on the phone, and is quite redundant with all my desktop speed dials. So I appreciate not having it display in the navigation on the desktop.

                                I post from my phone frequently, which likes to change "the" to "three". If you see three or similar, I probably meant "the". I use swipe, so typos can be totally unrelated words to what I intended. Knowing this should help you read through my typos.

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                                  The separation of Mobile and Desktop bookmarks is all fine.
                                  I just want to access and organize them all from my desktop.
                                  Often, I quickly bookmark web sites/pages to later view from the desktop.
                                  It's crazy that in Chrome, this problem doesn't exist as well as the difference in accessing the opened mobile tabs (a drop-down list just doesn't cut it).
                                  There's like some real workflow changes that need to be made with this browser.

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                                    Maybe Chrome does this one thing better than Vivaldi does right now... they've had a mobile browser for how many years? Vivaldi Android is in beta, as far as prerelease software goes it's good, even shockingly good. Bookmark management taken as whole, Chrome is abysmal in comparison to Vivaldi, it's one of the main reasons I do not use Chrome. I'm sure we'll see some changes in this area in the future from Vivaldi that will makes things more convenient. But they aren't unusable. I described some workflow in earlier posts, and I use this to create literally hundreds of bookmarks a day on my phone, sometimes well over a thousand perhaps even a few thousand on rare occasions. Once you're aware of how it is working, it's not difficult to work with it.

                                    I post from my phone frequently, which likes to change "the" to "three". If you see three or similar, I probably meant "the". I use swipe, so typos can be totally unrelated words to what I intended. Knowing this should help you read through my typos.

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                                      BoneTone @ozone1979
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                                      @ozone1979 said in How access "Mobile bookmarks" from Desktop?:

                                      Often, I quickly bookmark web sites/pages to later view from the desktop.

                                      BTW, if you just have a few pages that you want to read later on your desktop, you can use the share function on your phone.

                                      First chose share from the menu
                                      Screenshot_20200212-085504_Vivaldi.jpg

                                      Then click the Send to devices Vivaldi icon
                                      Screenshot_20200212-085626_Android System.jpg

                                      Finally, select which device to send it to, only one listed here because I haven't used my other phone or rebooted into another OS in a while.
                                      Screenshot_20200212-085913_Vivaldi.jpg

                                      This is what I do for pages that I just want to review when I get to my desk. Or, if I'm bookmarking a series of pages and one page comes up that I want to bookmark but into a different folder than all the rest, I'll use this too and bookmark it at my desk. That's just faster than choosing a bookmark folder on mobile, especially with library the size of mine, which causes delays anytime you go to change a bookmark's folder. That's not unique to Vivaldi, happens in my other browsers as well.

                                      I post from my phone frequently, which likes to change "the" to "three". If you see three or similar, I probably meant "the". I use swipe, so typos can be totally unrelated words to what I intended. Knowing this should help you read through my typos.

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                                        @bonetone any ideas for how to do a mass exodus of "Mobile Bookmark" bookmarks to another folder?
                                        Like, if there's a specific extension that would be good for that?

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                                          BoneTone @ozone1979
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                                          @ozone1979 On my phone I just browse my bookmarks, navigate to the root of my mobile bookmarks, and then multiselect the series of bookmarks (press and hold on the first one, then tap each other bookmark that you want to move into the same folder). Once I've selected all the bookmarks that I want to group together, I click the move icon at the top right and move them to wherever they need to go -- sometimes a new folder in work marks, sometimes directly into some existing folder in my main tree. Bookmarks created close to each other time will be grouped together in the mobile bookmarks folder.

                                          I've moved over 200 bookmarks in one operation that way before. Sure, I'd prefer to do it another way, but like I said, not unusable.

                                          I post from my phone frequently, which likes to change "the" to "three". If you see three or similar, I probably meant "the". I use swipe, so typos can be totally unrelated words to what I intended. Knowing this should help you read through my typos.

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                                            I'm having the same problem. Since it's been more than a year from this thread I've created a feature request in the forum for this. I think that now we only have to wait. I'd appreciate if you can give it a thumbs up, it should help.

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