How we stand up to giants
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Opera VPN is not a valid VPN, I have the same thing using a proxie.On the other hand Opera, since it is in the hands of a Chinese company, is less private than Chrome, its version of Android is full of trackers (11, according to Exodus. It is still a good browser, but of course they lie if they claim to respect the user's privacy, this does not change the "VPN" that it incorporates.
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I'm a recent convert from Opera, so I feel right at home with Vivaldi. And I feel better with your commitment to privacy and non-tracking of users than I did under the big red O.
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@joeduffus
Welcome to the forums and enjoy Vivaldi Browser and also Vivaldi for Android.
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@joeduffus welcome I too was an Opera user, not any more!
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Happy Birthday Vivaldi.
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Also a recently converted Opera user. Vivaldi's speed dial is excellent. I'd like a cleaner Notes panel UI, but that's not that big a deal to me.
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@Sillvva said in How we stand up to giants:
Also a recently converted Opera user. Vivaldi's speed dial is excellent. I'd like a cleaner Notes panel UI, but that's not that big a deal to me.
Please, start a topic about the issue.
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@lamarca said in How we stand up to giants:
@Sillvva said in How we stand up to giants:
Also a recently converted Opera user. Vivaldi's speed dial is excellent. I'd like a cleaner Notes panel UI, but that's not that big a deal to me.
Please, start a topic about the issue.
ThanksNot really an issue. Just a personal preference.
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@Sillvva said in How we stand up to giants:
Not really an issue. Just a personal preference.
Preference
smakes the difference.
Let's try a second suggestion Vivaldi HelpEdited: grammar
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I strongly disagree with those words:
It reflects what our users want and not the agenda of investors pushing for profit.
It's just a lie. Vivaldi rejects many of the users' ideas and, above all, suggestions for blocking ads. I know that this is due to the way you earn money, but you are not even trying to give this blocking of ads even on a similar basis to Brave, i.e. to give choice to the user. This is called hypocrisy or simply lying to potential new users.
P.S For moderators. I don't use offensive words here, just terms for Vivaldi's behavior. If there is really something offensive, please show me which are the offensive ones first.
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@MattSolo45 , still a lot of bugs to solve, many feature requests and a team of 40 with chef and cleaning staff included, patience.
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@Catweazle Then why lie in the blog? It is not better to write that we are still trying to find the best business model so that users, as well as we only gain? I understand that somehow you have to make a living, and I respect that, but tell me straightforwardly how it is not only here on the forum that a typical user doesn't even look into and explain himself or herself to a small team, because there are many other projects that have a lot less people working on and they do even better than you. Greetings .
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@MattSolo45 , selling user data, like Google or Opera? Who has a better customer service with a smaller team?
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@MattSolo45 Calling the developers liars and hypocrites is really offensive. Accusing them of rejecting users' ideas is an unsubstantiated allegation. They may have a different opinion to you regarding priorities or how to implement a feature request, but that does not give you the right to make such shameful allegations.
I would have reported your post for moderation, but then you would whine about censorship, so I prefer to address your points directly.
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@Pesala It's insulting to me to brag about something you haven't achieved yet. Believe me, I really like Vivaldi and it's hard for me to switch to another browser because it's comfortable
and I appreciate working on it, but I'd rather see real innovation. You have things that are just yours, like synchronization, large scale personalization and so on. But boasting about the fact that our browser (on Google technology) works very well is as if I, after tuning my car's engine, boasted that the engine of MY production pulls out so much and so much. I don't know about you, but I don't talk like that unless I paint my car in Vivaldi colours and logo and I'll say what kind of innovator I am. -
@MattSolo45 said in How we stand up to giants:
But boasting about the fact that our browser (on Google technology) works very well is as if I, after tuning my car's engine, boasted that the engine of MY production pulls out so much and so much.
Vivaldi never claimed that they designed or developed the engine, so I'm struggling to see any lies here.
You can use somebody else's engine and still make a phenomenal car, like the Ariel Atom (which uses Honda Civic's engine) or Pagani Zonda (which uses Mercedes AMG's engine) to name just a few.
What you should keep in mind is that the development takes time and just because some features are not available, it does not mean that nobody cares - they might just have other priorities right now, so we have to be patient... -
Looks like I have to put in my two cents:
I did not create an account, to see these posts; most, not all are not transparent to what they want from Vivaldi; only a choice is made to display "hyper criticism" I neither am not a moderator BUT I display "common sense". What I "appear" to be reading is that Vivaldi is not for everyone; fine, please let me use Vivaldi,so I may get on with my volunteer work here.
Another thing not brought out is that others may be so involved in the Google system; as an FYI, I have deleted ALL things Google, that means that apps do not load, and I am free from Google 100% I configured Vivaldi for this permanent block! -
@joao-rossa: yeah.. maybe add an rss feed panel like the glorious sage++ addon firefox used to have....
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Are you willing to hear the truth & embrace it?
This post is out of frustration, caring, & hope. Otherwise, Chrome, Firefox, & the new Edge are just fine as main browsers.
I would love to be able to use Vivaldi as my main browser.I actually read the title as "How We stand on the, shoulders of, giants" because Vivaldi is built on Blink & V8 (Chromium) instead of "How we stand up to giants"
This an example of the lack of branding awareness when choosing the title (& your name's nature, more below on that)Sadly, Vivaldi is almost perfect except for a fatal flaw that might push me to ditch Vivaldi completely!
I have used it for two or three years now, I think, & I waited & waited in hope that it might be fixed meanwhile relying on continuous saving of tabs, which is a hustle.
Therefore, just the act of taking the time to sign up & tell you this is a fail on your part.By the way, I had to log in then log in again to comment!
THE FLAW:
Why or who decided to auto-close tabs in the background while not in use for a while!? (Rhetorical question)
I have looked at all the options & even downloaded an extension but to no avail!I want my tabs persistent & it is beyond infuriating that a browser does this on behind the unaware users.
In addition, there is another minor issue with the search bar saving searches & it was hard to figure out how to clear it & not easy to do it too. I do not even remember how I did it.
BRANDING
Sorry but your branding is terrible & this is why you are not getting the market share you desire & break through.
Probably you would have been one of the top browsers based on features alone but it is never about only that.Who decided to call it "Vivaldi"!?
Do you know how long it took to remember & get the name at least half-right? It simply does not stick.From Wikipedia "Its name comes from the Italian composer Antonio Vivaldi, which, according to one of its creators, is an easy name to be remembered and understood worldwide."
Don't know the composer (even though I've heard his music so many times), not an easy name even though I am a native English speaker & I guess because of the two Vs, & who did the consensus to say it was worldwide understood!?
The choice was a personal preference & failed on many 101s of branding.
This is many times due to a developer (technical mind) deciding on aesthetics.Choosing a name, which is the main part of a brand, is crucial & there are many variables to consider & different fields to consult to come up with the perfect brand (this is a science & art)
Doing a quick analysis on the name I can tell from (Vivaldi) that:
You motivation comes from individuality and independence, which can/will lead to conflicts as you have strong beliefs/personal strength ... (-1 for a company)
Also, you make an impression of affectionate & welcoming host on people which is good since you are always looking for ways to make others comfortable which means likable for large number of people (+1)
However, you feel most comfortable and automatically act as an analyst, philosopher, & can even be a teacher as you love silence and solitude which is not good for a company (-5)
As a company, you need (at least) the impression of reliability, growth, & charisma.
Using the right branding & strategies can achieve all of this.If it was up to me, I’ll rebrand & can definitely increase your market share by at least 10% if not more within 1-2 years. At least, I will put you on the right track.
The name reflects the composer well but not you as a company! You are living in the shadow of his energy & “name luck”.
By the way, Vivaldi was popular then faded, faced financial difficulties then died in poverty.
The only reason we even know of him or his work is that someone else (& many others) revived & resurrected his work.Now, view that as a trajectory of a company's life!
You need to accelerate the trajectory by doing the reviving & re-branding yourself. Push yourself into the cliff & have everything ready in place to catch yourself.
I am willing to help if you are willing to listen.
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@fseng said in How we stand up to giants:
Why or who decided to auto-close tabs in the background while not in use for a while!?
Tabs are never closed, they are, however, hibernated to save RAM and CPU cycles. See Hibernating Tabs and Lazy Loading in the help file.