Ctrl+Enter for adding .com not working in Address Bar. Searches instead.
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@Pesala said in Ctrl+Enter for adding .com not working in Address Bar. Searches instead.:
I think you are both mistaken about the developer's attitude to this issue.
@ruario said in the RC2 thread:
The code that was used for Ctrl+Enter was highly complex, did not work as it was intended and caused other issues. Adding it back at this stage would break other things. We need to think about this option more before it could be re-added.
I agree with him that is not fundamental. I never use it, though I am sure a good number of users do use it, I wonder if that is even 10%. If it were 90% we would be seeing a flood of posts complaining about this change.
There is no quick fix. The code was highly complex and needs to be rewritten, but not before rethinking how it should work.
Of course it should not be rewritten thoughtlessly - nobody is advocating that. Rather, it should not have been removed until a replacement was ready. The elimination of this feature was a regression. Allowing regressions because "most users don't care" is the kind of thinking that got us Opera 15 and triggered the creation of this very browser. It's a troubling development for that reason.
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@Fopedush It was removed because:
It did not work as intended and caused other issues.
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@Pesala said in Ctrl+Enter for adding .com not working in Address Bar. Searches instead.:
@Fopedush It was removed because:
It did not work as intended and caused other issues.
If it was truly causing issues in already-released versions of Vivaldi then I suppose I must begrudgingly admit that this was the only way to handle it. In any case, if my tone strayed too close to antagonism, then I apologize. I have nothing but respect and admiration for the Vivaldi developers. Even with the occasional hiccup, Vivaldi remains the best browser out there.
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I would like to add a +1 to fixing this. I used this shortcut all the time, and have been rather confused since it's been removed.
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Same here not working on ubuntu 19.10, I need 'ctrl+enter = www.***.com' desperately. Presume it is quite easy to fix this problem. Please fix and update. Thx.
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@tau As I said earlier:
There is no quick fix. The code was highly complex and needs to be rewritten, but not before rethinking how it should work.
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It's a relatively simple feature that has been in every browser since the early 1990s. If it's really that complex and in need of a rewrite in Vivaldi, that dramatically lowers my faith in both its codebase and its developers.
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Please, someone post more rants about it, it will surely speed up the coding process, especially on saturday night. * sigh *
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It's the exact BUG that I decide not to upgrade to the newest version.
I have been using Ctrl+Enter to append www and .com for a VERY LONG time, but this bug totally breaks my habit.
Very frustrated. Will not upgrade until this bug is fixed.. -
Same issue here, Windows 10 1803, Vivaldi 2.9.1705.41 (Stable channel) (32-bit).
I must say the comments in this thread are disturbing regarding a feature that every browser has had for over 10 years, probably longer.
Looking forward for this to be fixed in the next update, or I'll give Brave a try.
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@Jx3oMeW2A said in Ctrl+Enter for adding .com not working in Address Bar. Searches instead.:
@diogin said in Ctrl+Enter for adding .com not working in Address Bar. Searches instead.:
It's the exact BUG that I decide not to upgrade to the newest version.
I have been using Ctrl+Enter to append www and .com for a VERY LONG time, but this bug totally breaks my habit.
Very frustrated. Will not upgrade until this bug is fixed..This was my point at the beginning. I did upgrade though. What version are you on I will look for it and stay on that version till this bug is fixed. I have used CTRL+Enter since the beginning back in the early 2000s so the fact that this is being removed is scary. Every other browser has this functionality.
It's 2.8.1664.44 (Stable channel) (64-bit).
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I would really appreciate if Vivaldi Devs could fix this Ctrl + Enter combination issue. I am a software developer and am accustomed to using loads of shortcuts to optimize my daily workflow and not having this muscle-memorized combination in my favorite and preferred browser really frustrates my on daily basis.
Thank you and kind regards
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+1 to this as well. Also I call BS on the code to handle adding a .com to a text string and loading an address is "complex".
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@justatemp I am calling BS on your claim. The developers can see the code, and you cannot.
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@Pesala while your comment is fair, things just don't line up from a software engineering perspective:
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It's concerning that something seemingly so simple can have a big amount of technical debt associated with it and require a rewrite or large refactor.
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What exactly, was broken or rendered unreliable by the CTRL+Enter functionality?
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The CTRL+Enter auto-completion SHOULD be inherited from Chromium: https://cs.chromium.org/chromium/src/components/omnibox/browser/omnibox_edit_model.cc?sq&g=0&l=592
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Is Vivaldi saying that the Chromium source is too complicated or laden with technical debt, and that Vivaldi should reinvent the wheel (rewrite the user input handling code)?
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If so, is there a corresponding issue upstream in the Chromium sources for this? Or do they even agree with this assessment?
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Did Vivaldi change the Chromium source/rewrite the user input handling to be less decoupled/resilient or otherwise have more technical debt?
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Further, the functionality wasn't removed but rather replaced with a search. The complexity of auto-completing a string "foo" into "foo.com" and autocompleting that same string into "YOUR_SEARCH_ENGINE_HERE/?query=foo" is very, very similar.
Given this, everyone can surely understand why this smells fishy?
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@jsfritz I am not into conspiracy theories. If the developer says it is complex and needs a rethink, then I believe him.
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Shame someone for having an opinion without seeing the source code
Someone provides a logical, engineering-best-practice founded theory with the little information we have sans-source-code
Label them as conspiracy theorist
Theories are all we have without access to the source code, as you've so pointed out.
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@jsfritz No. It does not smell fishy, unless one is paranoid. It is simply a problem for the developers to solve.
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@Ayespy I think it's really telling that I'm being labeled as paranoid and a conspiracy theorist without anyone knowing who I am or what my background is or debating the validity of the points I've posed above. Per the code of conduct in your signature, we should be kind and friendly when giving or receiving feedback. As someone who knows about software engineering, I am trying to give honest, meaningful feedback here in the form of the questions I've posed in my reply further above. Not trying to be combative or overly critical, but in my experience this doesn't add up.
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@jsfritz I don't think I'm labeling you anything. I think I'm speaking from knowledge of the team and the product, and telling you to please not worry so much.
You have to assume dark motives to consider anything Vivaldi does "fishy," And from what I know (I've met half the team personally, watched them work, and attended their meetings - had hours-long conversations with the founder and know his commitment to privacy and his deep antagonism toward tracking and data mining), that would not square with the facts on the ground.
To consider anything from Vivaldi "fishy," I'd have to deny everything I know.
Please don't think I'm calling you names or accusing you of anything.