Which VPN's are supported by Vivaldi?
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There appears to be some confusion here about what exactly a VPN is. The "Private" in Virtual Private Network isn't referring to your privacy - it does not mean anonymous, and it doesn't mean that the company from which you buy service is unable to access your information or that it does not log traffic. The adjective "private" is modifying the noun "network" in the term Virtual Private Network, not the client/user.
VPN is a technology that predates the current popularity of commercial VPN services for individual internet users seeking to protect their privacy online. Briefly, the original purpose of a VPN was to connect clients who are physically distant and unable to connect directly to a private network - usually providing that connection across a larger public network. A common use case is connecting satellite offices & remote workers to the primary headquarters/office of a business, giving remote users access to resources inside the private network that are not exposed publicly.
In comparison to a "proxy", VPNs operate in much lower layers of the OSI Model (layer 2, or sometimes 3 or both), so any network traffic on the system gains all the benefits of using the VPN, whatever they may be. A proxy, on the other hand, is like a gateway, some operate at the very top layer (7), while some go down a couple layers (to 5). They have to be configured for each program rather than the whole system. There are "proxifiers" or "socksifiers" which can be installed to make most of your programs go through the proxy server, but this isn't bringing the connection to the server down into the media layers, it's still operating in the host layers.
VPNs are fundamentally different from proxies in terms of how they operate. Granted, using a VPN simply to encrypt & redirect traffic through the servers is using a small subset of the functionality, and is very similar to using a proxy, but the differences do make well configured VPNs more robust.
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I would recommend Private Internet Access (PIA). The major "drawback" that most reviews will mention is that they are an American company, but honestly, given the knowledge we're have about PIA (discussed next), being an American business does bring some benefits. The general concern when operating in a 5 or 14 eyes country is that the service will be forced to give up your information. It's easy for a service to claim it doesn't keep logs, PIA has proven it doesn't in court more than once. The FBI brought them into court to provide logs, and they couldn't. So that isn't an issue, but they still have to operate with the a level of integrity that might not be true of businesses based elsewhere.
Their speeds are great, and I've only ever encountered one problem using it with Vivaldi Android Snapshot, never on the desktop and never Android Beta. I'm actually fairly sure that PIA was was to blame for that issue, but in the name of full disclosure I mention it. It only happened once and I haven't been able to reproduce it with PIA yet, though I have reproduced it without PIA. I'm dull investigating to find the root cause of my sync issue.
It's not free, but I would never recommend a free VPN, and the prices are reasonable. If you want to, you can use payment methods that are not readily tracked back to you, such as cryptocurrency or many different gift card brands. It has all the features you'd expect to have in a VPN service, maybe not 1 or 2 less common features. As always, do your own research on any recommendations you receive before using any service.
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@bonetone said in Which VPN's are supported by Vivaldi?:
I would recommend Private Internet Access (PIA). The major "drawback" that most reviews will mention is that they are an American company, but honestly, given the knowledge we're have about PIA (discussed next), being an American business does bring some benefits. The general concern when operating in a 5 or 14 eyes country is that the service will be forced to give up your information. It's easy for a service to claim it doesn't keep logs, PIA has proven it doesn't in court more than once. The FBI brought them into court to provide logs, and they couldn't. So that isn't an issue, but they still have to operate with the a level of integrity that might not be true of businesses based elsewhere.
Their speeds are great, and I've only ever encountered one problem using it with Vivaldi Android Snapshot, never on the desktop and never Android Beta. I'm actually fairly sure that PIA was was to blame for that issue, but in the name of full disclosure I mention it. It only happened once and I haven't been able to reproduce it with PIA yet, though I have reproduced it without PIA. I'm dull investigating to find the root cause of my sync issue.
It's not free, but I would never recommend a free VPN, and the prices are reasonable. If you want to, you can use payment methods that are not readily tracked back to you, such as cryptocurrency or many different gift card brands. It has all the features you'd expect to have in a VPN service, maybe not 1 or 2 less common features. As always, do your own research on any recommendations you receive before using any service.
I use a free VPN, because I only use it in a timely manner, for example to watch a video that is blocked in my country. If it is only for this type of use, a free VPN may be sufficient. But if you have to read the conditions very well, and use a reliable service.Many paid VPNs also offer a reduced free service, but equally private, but limited to data volume or reduced number of servers available to the user, which in case of a timely use may be more than enough. Certainly there are also other "VPNs" that are advertised free and "unlimited", which obviously are not reliable, when financed directly with user data or / and are simply not real VPNs. As I said before, I use Proton mail and having an account with it, I also use the VPN they offer, having a good service in the free version, only limited by the amount of servers available, but not in data volume and also with reasonable speed, Enough for my purposes. Proton has also been valued very positively in several specialized magazines as a reliable company with good service, both with the mail, as well as the VPN, free or paid.
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Hoxx is a proxy or VN (there is no P because they log all your browsing activity)
https://thebestvpn.com/reviews/hoxx-vpn/Stay away if you want Private
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yeah as long as you don't need it to be secret, just to bypass a block it should be fine
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@zypper said in Which VPN's are supported by Vivaldi?:
For my "secrets" I use Windscribe on Linux
Windscribe is a good VPN, maybe you can try also Proton VPN, developed by CERN cientific team.
I like both, because they provide good conditions and excellent privacy also in their corresponding free versions, which is not so frequent among the free ones. -
@zypper said in Which VPN's are supported by Vivaldi?:
@Catweazle said in Which VPN's are supported by Vivaldi?:
maybe you can try also Proton VPN, developed by CERN cientific team.
I have Proton too
(using Proton Mail, sometimes). Thx for this advice.The free version has no data limit, but only has three servers to choose from, although for occasional use it is sufficient. Security and privacy is 100% in all versions, although it is not the fastest due to double encryption. Well, 20-30Mbs reaches, enough for streaming.
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@Dr-Flay said in Which VPN's are supported by Vivaldi?:
Hoxx is a proxy or VN (there is no P because they log all your browsing activity)
https://thebestvpn.com/reviews/hoxx-vpn/Stay away if you want Private
Please see my previous comments, the word "Private" in the term Virtual Private Network does not imply anything about your personal privacy. It's not even why the technology was invented. Unfortunately, I've seen this same mistake made by VPN review sites. That has decreased my respect for those sites & authors as they are propagating a misunderstanding of the technology, and ignoring an entire class of users who are not using these services for privacy.
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By your statement it would seem that there will be no good VPN reviews at all.
VPNs were indeed created for privacy. Generally for the privacy of accessing work computers from home or elsewhere.
Everything about them is there for privacy and the model stuck to by OpenVPN, which most good providers use and is free.The type of VPNs commonly used by the public are a man-in-the-middle type provider, so you do not control the end points.
Most log general usage stats for general maintenance, security and performance info, and many do not feel the need to monitor and save your unencrypted and specific browsing data.
Hoxx have taken it upon them selves to watch what site you visit and where you go within it.
This is actually more than the UK Gov require from the ISPs, who only log the site not the pages.Unless the law where they are based has asked them to collect this personal info, they go too far.
It's not about the obsolete encryption or risk of privacy breach, it is the out right nosey behaviour they show compared with others.
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@Dr-Flay said in Which VPN's are supported by Vivaldi?:
By your statement it would seem that there will be no good VPN reviews at all.
VPNs were indeed created for privacy.
I don't know how stating that some reviews make a mistake implies all reviews are bad. As for that second sentence and what follows, you're arguing against a point I didn't make.
Generally for the privacy of accessing work computers from home or elsewhere.
Exactly, this is not personal privacy. That was what I said.
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ExpressVPN should be your number one pick among these VPNs. It's one of the giants in the VPN market and has a lot of great features and coverage in a lot of countries.
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@lucyhales I'm not really familiar with ExpressVPN. The thing I like most about PIA is that its claims about not keeping logs have been court tested, more than once. In multiple cases they've been asked by authorities to provide that data, but we're not able to do so because it simply didn't exist.
It's got the features I need, at a reasonable price, with negligible impact on throughput. I can't really ask for anything more. Should the day come that performance does become an issue, or they do begin collecting logs, then I'll be on the lookout for another court tested service.
I don't currently know of any, but I also haven't looked for one. Perhaps ExpressVPN is one? I assume others may have had the same thing happen, but I can't recommend a service I haven't investigated. Anyone who is serious about their privacy really should do their own research and not take anyone's word, including my own. But we do give places to start their research at least.
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In my opinion, ExpressVPN should be your first choice because it easy to configure with Linux and 30 days money back guearntee, if you will not satisfied with its service. Second option is PureVPN which is also compatible with Linux and other platforms. Now it offers 7 days trial for new users, so, this is a good chance to take a test drive and check their services and features.
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@mrdavekim said in Which VPN's are supported by Vivaldi?:
easy to configure with Linux and 30 days money back guearntee
That's pretty standard. Private Internet Access also offers a 30 day money back guarantee, and currently they are offering 2 months free as so many people are stuck working from home.
I use PIA on Windows, Linux, Android and iOS. They also have one of, if not the largest network, such helps with finding exit points where you want them, getting on the network via a nearby server, and overall speeds.
When it comes to the top few VPN services, you're getting similar experiences. Certainly Linux support and a money-back trial period don't differentiate between them.
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