Vivaldi 2.9 RC 2 – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 1705.30

[SteveKong]

@ruario: Does this justify the hope to get mail for the holiday season?

[Pathduck]

@SteveKong said in Vivaldi 2.9 RC 2 – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 1705.30:

@ruario: Does this justify the hope to get mail for the holiday season?

I hope to get a lot of mail for the holidays, and hope you will too!

[npro]

@ruario By fundamental I mean it belongs to the core of every browser out there, it's there for over 20 years, it became a standard and nobody refers to it as a "feature" anymore. It just belongs to the "norm" like Alt+F4, Ctrl+C etc.

I disagree that it doesn't make sense now, if you browse in private it makes perfect sense to type the url and having autocomplete it, 'cause you don't have access to it in history, if you start typing an address that has been in history or in bookmarks but it leads to another sub-page and not the main etc.

Another point is that if it didn't make sense it wouldn't still exist in browsers made for average Joes like Chrome and Opera, and the most important point is that removing it does not comply with Vivaldi's concept and ethics.

Google has removed in Chrome 78 "close other tabs", "close tabs to the left" and other entries from the tab menu because apparently 6% of users using them was not enough to justify their existense, I hope that this didn't suddenly became the new route of Vivaldi as well, to become another Opera and remove certain trusted options, because the "modern world" does not use them. I accept that it's a stubborn technical issue that hasn't made it to Vivaldi 2.9 but talking about removing it is something completely new and pretty scary!

[Komposten]

@npro
I've never really heard of Ctrl+Enter before. Personally I wouldn't refer to it as a feature, as you say, but rather as a gimmick.

To me it doesn't feel like auto-completing with .com makes too much sense as there are now literally thousands of TLDs and more and more websites move to "unconventional" ones. And that's not to mention country-specific websites which typically use a country code TLD (I'm Swedish, though, and frequently visit sites using .se).

It might make sense if the auto-completion is configurable, though, or even "smart" (go through a number of TLDs until it finds a domain that exists).

[kahukura]

@Komposten said in Vivaldi 2.9 RC 2 – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 1705.30:

It might make sense if the auto-completion is configurable, though, or even "smart" (go through a number of TLDs until it finds a domain that exists).

I remember O12 had it like that. You could configure a list of which TLDs to be checked in a certain sequence. So in your case (.se, .com)

[Pesala]

@kahukura Vivaldi 2.8 still has it, so I guess those who think it is fundamental can use 2.8 as their default browser until it gets added back. I keep the latest Vivaldi stable installed for testing purposes, but use the latest Snapshot as my default browser.

[Komposten]

@kahukura said in Vivaldi 2.9 RC 2 – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 1705.30:

I remember O12 had it like that. You could configure a list of which TLDs to be checked in a certain sequence. So in your case (.se, .com)

Ah, I see. Yeah, that makes more sense.

@Pesala
Works on 2.9.1675.11 as well, in case one wants to use a post-2.8 snapshot with it.

[A Former User]

@iAN-CooG said in Vivaldi 2.9 RC 2 – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 1705.30:

That's exactly what I feel, but it's about getting used to it. Waiting for the first 3.0 SS for the actual fixes as usual

Who said that after 2.9 will be 3.0? 1.x was until 15/16.

[kahukura]

@potmeklecbohdan OT: Hopes and dreams ..

[A Former User]

@kahukura But that would mean 2.10 → 3.0

[Bosdan]

Windows 7 Home Edition
Vivaldi 2.9.1705.30 (32 bits)
Hello,
The lower part in the bookmarks panel where we can change the url is no more moveable up and down.
The window stays open, I can't reduce it anymore.
I wish from the beginning that the settings could be made in a window, like in Opera 12, or like in Vivaldi for general settings : a hope?
Other point: some pages remain desperately white (or empty?), as here: https://www.commentcamarche.net/
I change the user agent, but nothing works.
If you have a solution
Thanks to all of you

[iAN CooG]

@potmeklecbohdan said in Vivaldi 2.9 RC 2 – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 1705.30:

Who said that after 2.9 will be 3.0? 1.x was until 15/16.

Let's hope not, they should have learnt the lesson by now, remember that for many 2.10 == 2.1 hence older than 2.9

[t0yz]

The problems with Youtube's Picture in Picture persist for a maybe 5-6 builds now. It seems related to the resolution. Turning off hardware acceleration in settings, clean install (even on clean OS), standalone install - nothing helps.
I've made a short video to capture how this issue looks. Unless I change resolutions, I get get a white or black rectangle, with sound, where the PiP should be. Can't move it, like with PiP video, can't click what's behind it.
this is happening on a Z370 platform with a 8700K CPU and 1070ti, both on 1903 and 1909 x64, and on at least 5-6 Nvidia drivers, even the old 388.13 drivers that were the first to support this GPU. PiP seems fine in 2.8, at least when I tested it a week or two ago.
Is there any way to troubleshoot this further? Thanks.

Video:
https://youtu.be/kNd5-uxV0A8

[Komposten]

@iAN-CooG Or, keep using proper version numbers until many learn that version numbers are not floating point numbers. Allowing only 9 minor versions between major releases might be too restrictive (unless we want to basically go the route of "every release is a major release", like Opera or Chrome where version numbers are in the double digits).

[TbGbe]

@Komposten Adopt both from 3.0 -> 3.001; 3.002 ... 3.152 -> 4.0

[mib2berlin]

@t0yz
Hi, tested PiP on Windows 10 Pro 64 1903 updated and Vivaldi 2.9 RC 2 1705.30 and work fine.
Tested on:
Intel i5 3570K 16 GB RAM
GTX 760 4 GB /Display card
Driver 435.80
Resolution 480, 720 and 1080p
Hardware acceleration: On
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrEczg72V4M

I have no idea why it does not work for you.
May you open a new thread in the Windows section to get more testers.

Cheers, mib

[schoerb]

After installing the latest update, Vivaldi still doesn't reopen.

[t0yz]

@mib2berlin Thanks.
It "works" for me as well, provided I choose 240p first. After that, I can use my usual 1080p setting, but if I try 1080p when I first open the page, I get the black square.
After I "encourage" Vivaldi to use PiP with 240p, it also works with 1080p and the other resolutions normally. If I close the tab and reopen it, I'm back at the blank/black rectangle and I have to go 240p again to "fix" it.
I really have no idea what in the world can cause this, or what can interfere with PiP like this.
Maybe there is some sort of log where we can see why PiP fails?
This also occurs on other Chromium browsers, I tried Chromium Edge on 1903 with same results, so I assume it's from the engine itself.

[mib2berlin]

@t0yz
In addition to my post:
I start a session in standard view, not full screen, and default resolution is 480p in the linked video for example. > PiP work > close PiP
Change resolution to 720p > PiP work > close PiP
and so forth.
Do you change resolution during running PiP?

Cheers, mib

[t0yz]

@mib2berlin You can see the bug here:
https://youtu.be/kNd5-uxV0A8