Flashback
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I ditched flash about 10 years ago and have not missed it.
There are just too many security holes... and the internet is supposed to a place of progress. In my opinion we should not be regressing to suit corporations who are too cheap or lazy to embrace newer and more secure technologies.
I, personally, have no use for flash
For those projects developed in-house, and used only in-house, I suppose(?) there is less harm.Thankfully Vivaldi has flash is disabled by default.
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For average Joe like myself, Flash is still something you encounter here and there and if it doesn't work it's frustrating. Every so often (3 times a year?) I run into flash problems with Vivaldi - usually after an update. Then, nothing I do in Vivaldi works (enabling flash in settings, allowing it in the site specific settings, downloading the latest flash version etc.). I just see the puzzle icon. Right-click 'run plugin' didn't do anything).
Turns out I needed to update Chrome on my computer to make it work in Vivaldi. (!)
There is not enough info on the help sites google finds (https://help.vivaldi.com/article/enabling-flash/ and https://help.vivaldi.com/article/enabling-flash/). I can see some people getting frustrated with Vivaldi because of that. I suggest to add a vivaldi specific troubleshooting guide
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I'm struggling to understand exactly what this new options does.
What it seems to actually do:
**If it's off, there's no Flash support on any site, even if you explicitly allow it for a given site.
If it's on, it's on with every site, even if you block it for a given site.**
That's rather limiting, to say the least. I prefer the old way: Off by default, but able to be allowed for a given site, which is exactly what I assumed the setting would permit when it was Off.
What am I missing? I find it impossible to believe that what existed in Chromium has been completely neutered by this new setting.
Yes, I know Flash is being deprecated, but it's not gone yet....
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Flash is obviously dead and there are fewer and fewer pages that require flash, a few exceptions apart. Mobile phones have not supported flash for a long time.
In view of new technologies, it is possible to supply content previously reserved only for flash, not only HTML5, there is also WebGl, Unity etc., more in line with current contents that are also playable by mobile devices. Therefore I don't miss flash, no more than 5 1/4 disks -
@Catweazle said in Flashback:
Therefore I don't miss flash, no more than 5 1/4 disks
Sometimes the good old games are surely missed (Digger/Sokoban..)
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@rseiler With the old way, after Chromium 69 or something, you were not able to save the setting to allow Flash on a site. After restart Vivaldi would forget it, and there was little Vivaldi developers could do about it without writing the whole site settings UI from scratch.
There is a way to allow (and remember!) Flash on specific sites without allowing it globally. Have a look at these posts:
https://forum.vivaldi.net/post/232265
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@Pathduck Thanks a lot for that: policy/reg will be fine, now that I know it exists.
Yes, I had noticed for a while now that the Chromium allowance didn't stick (it doesn't in Chrome, either, so it's not a Vivaldi thing), but I understood that they were doing it as part of their long-term phase-out plan. It was inconvenient, but could still be adjusted easily.
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One more coincidence, I came here to change my notify prefs of this thread and met a very familiar nickname ......
Ouch... got one more reply before finishing
Edited: removed the duplicated parts, copy & paste
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They really should update the documentation* to take the Policy fix into account for those who want to brave the jungles of the Windows Registry
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Yes, that would be a good idea.
For the reg method, it should be noted that, barring some trick which may or may not exist, Vivaldi needs to be restarted to pick up any changes that you might have made in that section of the Registry since last starting the browser.
Also, you can use wildcards in the usual Google way, like:
[*.]adobe.com/
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@Catweazle said in Flashback:
Therefore I don't miss flash, no more than 5 1/4 disks
Sometimes the good old games are surely missed (Digger/Sokoban..)
Nor these, there is equally in Html5 and other formats
https://www.htmlgames.com/Classic+games
https://itch.io/games/html5/tag-classic
https://html5games.com/All-Games
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@Catweazle Besides my j/k was OT, thanks for the links.
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@Catweazle Besides my j/k was OT, thanks for the links.
One more that was never in flash format, I found it yesterday in Google Play, a classic of the 2000 and one of my favorites at the time.
Original, free, complete (more than 2000 maps) and without ads of any kind. A challenge to twist the neuronshttps://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=legatogames.lasertank
(OpenSource)
Also for PC
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We can still use flash now by enabling the plugin. At the end of 2020 will we still be able to flash i Vivaldi after all the other browsers block it
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Do you know if Chromium is just going to block the Flash plug-in where Vivaldi will have the possibility to work around the blocking? Or, is PPAPI behind dropped in Chromium so that there's no possibility of working around it?
If the former and Vivaldi doesn't want to work around it, will Vivaldi be built without PPAPI support then?
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Can anyone confirm that Flash applications will be able to run in Vivaldi in January 2021?
Or, because Vivaldi is Chromium based, after December 2020 won't run? If so, would they run in old version of Vivaldi like 2.7 or 2.10?Thanks for your help.
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Anyway, Flash is already very rarely used, mainly in advertising banners and the occasional page of old browser games.
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Thanks for your answer @Gwen-Dragon
Understood. But will Flash players applications run in old versions of Vivaldi (for example 2.7 or 2.10) that currently support Flash, after December 2020?
Or will be restricted somehow by Adobe or Chromium based browsers?
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@Catweazle said in Flashback:
Anyway, Flash is already very rarely used, mainly in advertising banners and the occasional page of old browser games.
And in quite a few old business systems for training, document searches, timesheet filling...
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@mossman Business and government. Governments are notoriously slow updating tech. Like NOAA still animates radar time loops using Flash.