no way to save some pages as MHTML?

Ayespy

@iAN-CooG And to make matters worse, if I change the file extension to html, then it opens fine. My instance of snapshot (updated today) is not building an MHTML file at all, but merely an HTML file with the wrong file extension.

What's you're OS?

iAN CooG

@Ayespy I'm on win7 32bit.
EDIT: Oh wait, after updating to Vivaldi 2.5.1525.36 "html (complete)" it's the default, I have to select "single file (mhtml)".
Until this afternoon mhtml was the default, on .34

npro

@iAN-CooG Strange, saving as mhtml remained as default here, maybe once you have saved as mhtml it remembers the preference? In the flags it is disabled.

Ayespy

@npro whut? Disabled in flags, yet available in context menu? That doesn't seem right, does it?

You're on Win10 same as I am, tho iAN_C00g is on Win7 (I don't have a working win7 system at the moment - have to resurrect a bricked system) and I'm on Win10. But let me turn off the flag, and see if that has the desired (and counterintuitive) effect.

iAN CooG

@Ayespy said in no way to save some pages as MHTML?:

whut? Disabled in flags, yet available in context menu? That doesn't seem right, does it?

It's like this since a lot of releases, at some point Vivaldi made it always on regardless of the internal chrome flag state.
I've set it enabled years ago when it was even "undocumented" because the generated mhtml was actually valid and openable also in internet explorer, so... why not?

Edit: it was even reported
https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/36243/bug-cannot-disable-save-page-as-mhtml/5

iAN CooG

@npro The last selection is remembered, yes, but before, and I think I remember correctly, the "single file (mhtml)" was the first selectable entry, now it's in 2nd position. Not a biggie indeed, as the selection seems to be remembered even after restarting Vivaldi (at least on this win7 pc)

Ayespy

So it works with the flag disabled. SMDH.

npro

@Ayespy hehe, yeah

horia

I just tried to save this very page of this forum, as an MHTml, and it does not work, again it appears the same poor black bird...
I am on win7, Viv 2.5.1525.34

In my Vivaldi, the "save as single file" (mhtml) is the default option.

iAN CooG

@horia I could reproduce the dead bird on opening the mhtml saved from this forum page. It randomly crash if opened from windows explorer, Open With/Vivaldi. It doesn't crash if I open from Vivaldi File menu or Ctrl-O.
F5 reloads the mhtml and renders it tho.

Pesala

@horia No problems here.

Specs: AMD A10-6800K, 8 Gb on Win 10 64-bit 1809 build 17763.475 • Snapshot 2.5.1525.37 (64-bit)

iAN CooG

@Pesala Please try by closing Vivaldi first, then open the mhtml from explorer, make sure mhtml is set to open in Vivaldi. or use Open With

Pesala

@iAN-CooG Still no issues. My default is Opera 12.18, and it opens OK in that too.

iAN CooG

@Pesala ok, no idea why, but at least we're in 2 seeing the crash, we're not imagining things

horia

@iAN-CooG
thank you so much! I would not ever have come to the idea to open the file in a different way!
Yes, indeed,

I can see the file if:

I open it by clicking Vivaldi > File > Open file...
I open it by clicking on the file and then "Open with... IExplorer"
I open it by dragging it to the Firefox window

I cannot see it if:
4) I open it by double clicking in Windows (the file is set to be opened in Vivaldi by default) - it opens in Vivaldi and shows the black bird
5) I open it by clicking on the file and then "Open with... > Vivaldi"
6) I open it by dragging it into the Vivaldi window

So, I have Win7 (latest update), and it seems there is a problem between Vivaldi and Win7, which wasn't here some 1-2 month ago (when I was doing the same saves and I could open the files normally, with Vivaldi).

Vivaldi version: 2.5.1525.34

LakeInHolland

@horia Works fine for me. I'm using the latest Vivaldi on Windows 10 Home ver. 1803 build 17134.345 (sometime after 8 June 2018) on 4GB RAM 10" ('A4') Asus laptop,
Browser: Vivaldi since early 2015, currently 2.5.1525.40 (Stable channel) (64-bit) since 9 May 2019
I did find I had to save the file twice as the first time I evidently hadn't waited long enough for the boxes at the bottom of the list to fill with their images.
It may be relevant, I suppose, that I first switched all cookies Off, then turned the most innocuous-looking one On.

LakeInHolland

@Pesala I hope it's appropriate for me to thank you here for mentioning reader view. I don't remember ever hearing about it! Cheers!

paul1149

@Pesala said in no way to save some pages as MHTML?:

@horia I recommend switching to reader view (see the icon in the address field) before saving the page, which hides the clutter and focuses on the article.

Thanks, Pesala. This is a great idea. Mhtml save has not been working here, but when I tried this it worked fine. Plus, the page I saved went from 1.5MB to 120KB, and is easier to read. Win-Win-Win.

Plotinus1

@Ayespy hi - what flag are you talking about disabling to make mhtml saves perfectly again?

And could you walk me through the procedure how you disable it?

I had the same problem of mhtml working great up to a month or so ago, and some update must have did something to the process. I noticed it when I wanted to look at one of my saved youtube for some comments I made and to make sure the save was working. It just had big symbols and the like. Not the essentially perfect rendering of a youtube page of comments and side pictures link video articles to click on.
Thanks in advance!

Ayespy

@Plotinus1 The flag only exists if you are using the Stable version (Vivaldi 2.5.1525.48). It has been removed in the Snapshot and subsequent versions.

To disable it, one types vivaldi://flags in the address bar, presses "enter," and in the resulting page, in the search field at the top, begin to type mhtml, and as you type the relevant flag appears. Click on it and change it to "Disabled." Close the Flags page.

Afterward, when saving a page, right click and select "save as," and then select "web page complete" from the file format options. After that, the browser will recall that's how you want to save pages.