no way to save some pages as MHTML?

Ayespy

So it works with the flag disabled. SMDH.

npro

@Ayespy hehe, yeah

horia

I just tried to save this very page of this forum, as an MHTml, and it does not work, again it appears the same poor black bird...
I am on win7, Viv 2.5.1525.34

In my Vivaldi, the "save as single file" (mhtml) is the default option.

iAN CooG

@horia I could reproduce the dead bird on opening the mhtml saved from this forum page. It randomly crash if opened from windows explorer, Open With/Vivaldi. It doesn't crash if I open from Vivaldi File menu or Ctrl-O.
F5 reloads the mhtml and renders it tho.

Pesala

@horia No problems here.

Specs: AMD A10-6800K, 8 Gb on Win 10 64-bit 1809 build 17763.475 • Snapshot 2.5.1525.37 (64-bit)

iAN CooG

@Pesala Please try by closing Vivaldi first, then open the mhtml from explorer, make sure mhtml is set to open in Vivaldi. or use Open With

Pesala

@iAN-CooG Still no issues. My default is Opera 12.18, and it opens OK in that too.

iAN CooG

@Pesala ok, no idea why, but at least we're in 2 seeing the crash, we're not imagining things

horia

@iAN-CooG
thank you so much! I would not ever have come to the idea to open the file in a different way!
Yes, indeed,

I can see the file if:

I open it by clicking Vivaldi > File > Open file...
I open it by clicking on the file and then "Open with... IExplorer"
I open it by dragging it to the Firefox window

I cannot see it if:
4) I open it by double clicking in Windows (the file is set to be opened in Vivaldi by default) - it opens in Vivaldi and shows the black bird
5) I open it by clicking on the file and then "Open with... > Vivaldi"
6) I open it by dragging it into the Vivaldi window

So, I have Win7 (latest update), and it seems there is a problem between Vivaldi and Win7, which wasn't here some 1-2 month ago (when I was doing the same saves and I could open the files normally, with Vivaldi).

Vivaldi version: 2.5.1525.34

LakeInHolland

@horia Works fine for me. I'm using the latest Vivaldi on Windows 10 Home ver. 1803 build 17134.345 (sometime after 8 June 2018) on 4GB RAM 10" ('A4') Asus laptop,
Browser: Vivaldi since early 2015, currently 2.5.1525.40 (Stable channel) (64-bit) since 9 May 2019
I did find I had to save the file twice as the first time I evidently hadn't waited long enough for the boxes at the bottom of the list to fill with their images.
It may be relevant, I suppose, that I first switched all cookies Off, then turned the most innocuous-looking one On.

LakeInHolland

@Pesala I hope it's appropriate for me to thank you here for mentioning reader view. I don't remember ever hearing about it! Cheers!

paul1149

@Pesala said in no way to save some pages as MHTML?:

@horia I recommend switching to reader view (see the icon in the address field) before saving the page, which hides the clutter and focuses on the article.

Thanks, Pesala. This is a great idea. Mhtml save has not been working here, but when I tried this it worked fine. Plus, the page I saved went from 1.5MB to 120KB, and is easier to read. Win-Win-Win.

Plotinus1

@Ayespy hi - what flag are you talking about disabling to make mhtml saves perfectly again?

And could you walk me through the procedure how you disable it?

I had the same problem of mhtml working great up to a month or so ago, and some update must have did something to the process. I noticed it when I wanted to look at one of my saved youtube for some comments I made and to make sure the save was working. It just had big symbols and the like. Not the essentially perfect rendering of a youtube page of comments and side pictures link video articles to click on.
Thanks in advance!

Ayespy

@Plotinus1 The flag only exists if you are using the Stable version (Vivaldi 2.5.1525.48). It has been removed in the Snapshot and subsequent versions.

To disable it, one types vivaldi://flags in the address bar, presses "enter," and in the resulting page, in the search field at the top, begin to type mhtml, and as you type the relevant flag appears. Click on it and change it to "Disabled." Close the Flags page.

Afterward, when saving a page, right click and select "save as," and then select "web page complete" from the file format options. After that, the browser will recall that's how you want to save pages.

LorenAmelang

Guess my problem is different from all these. Or maybe just nobody else tried reloading?

Whenever I try to open any mhtml file in Vivaldi, I get the dead bird. If I just reload the page with the circular arrow icon or Ctrl+R, it displays perfectly!

Has been happening for months across several Vivaldi versions. (In recent versions I have to click anywhere in the page before it will see any control characters - or let Windows see any!) This is on Windows 10 1803, 64-bit. I'm at the end of a 20+ mile series of WISP links, so my network is hopelessly random. Always saves perfectly. Well, Firefox won't open them, nor Chrome, but Internet Explorer will...

RasheedHolland

@LorenAmelang

I have got the same problem. When I try to open MHTML files I get the dead bird. Can this please be fixed? For the record, the files where saved as "Webpage, Single file" via the the "Save Page As" command.

horia

Dear @LorenAmelang & @RasheedHolland ,
thanks that you report your problems too! So it seems that not only win7 and vivaldi have this problem (as in my case), it is happening also with vivaldi and win10!
Thank you for your great solution (reload page!) I never came on this idea!

I found so far another little provisory solution for our common problem:

close Vivaldi, then
click on the file (mhtml) that you wish to open.

The file (more exactly windows) will force vivaldi to start and to show the file.
In my case, if I do it like this it works fine, with no error at all!

If, au contraire, I open a file while vivaldi is already open, then it does not work! (same symptom as yours).

It is quite an interesting story... And a long one

RasheedHolland

@horia

Thanks, will try those solutions, but the MHTML file should also be displayed when Vivaldi is already open, so seems like a bug. Actually, I have just tested it, and sometimes I get the dead bird, and sometimes not.

rainynight

Hi
I can't save proper .mhtml on stable debian gnu linux vivaldi 2.6.1566.49 (Stable channel) (32-bit) and it is so since ...years. It starts with --save-page-as-mhtml flag. The example is page with this thread. Vivaldi saves a plain html file with .mhtml extension. No images inside. When I try to open it with vivaldi I see blank page. I can open the file with vivaldi when I change the extension to .html but without pictures (except those linked directly from external server). The solution is to use "Save as MHT" extension for chrome.

On Windows 10 everything is OK.

haleba

Hi All,

I'm a long-time Opera user tired of the endless quirky issues and the new sketchy Chinese ownership and was overjoyed to find Vivaldi "got" MHTML. I used that save format all the time with Internet Explorer since PDF prints almost always wind up mangling/chopping the content, and hated splitting the file information using the "webpage complete" option because you couldn't share the page easily.

I was going to post a glowing report of this feature having just updated to Vivaldi 2.10 and having great success, but after testing a little further the review is "generally good ... and confusing".

I have a dual Win10-Linux(Ubuntu) system and this feature did not work under Ubuntu, outputting apparently "garbled" HTML as reported by others. Vivaldi will not render the garbled HTML at all, showing a white screen, even though the MHTML appears to load; in fact, an attempt to view the HTML code also results in a white screen. I have not seen that one before.

"OK, looks like a Linux issue", but then I tried this under Windows 10 and got beautiful results for one particular page, but only in "open" mode: the same failure occurred when I tried an MHTML save in incognito mode.

The two test URLs (with screenshots--please do not judge my choices--these simply caught my interest as I was testing):

"The Self-Help Movement That Is Upending American Christianity", medium.com (Win10, Ubuntu)

Notepad++ screens of Win vs Ubuntu output

"Opinion: The Conservative Case for Impeachment — and Removal", nytimes.com (Vivaldi open, incognito)

Screens of open vs. incognito output

Screenshot of Ubuntu Kate editor load of MHTML output

MHTML output, Vivaldi for Linux

One trick I learned doing this: this still works on NY Times even when it throws up the honkin' huge "View this page over our dead body" window if you go offline before loading the resulting MHTML file.

Hope Vivaldi can fix this.

System information (PII crossed out with "*---*"):

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    Revision		32aa7fcc41e7837f65963731df8d30a08099ede4
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    Executable Path	 /opt/vivaldi/vivaldi
    Profile Path	 /home/*---*/.config/vivaldi/Default

    dpkg -s vivaldi-stable
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    Status: install ok installed
    Priority: optional
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    Description: Experience the web in a whole new way with Vivaldi.
     Vivaldi is a browser that has the features you need, a style that fits and values you can stand by. Your browser matters. Take control with Vivaldi.
    Homepage: https://vivaldi.com