Mail M3?

Pesala

@cwm030 We use it for its email client. There is no need to use it for browsing. However, I still use it for:

Editing local HTML files
Opening pages with other browsers
Launching other applications with mnemonic shortcuts

otto

Is M3 on the roadmap for 2019?

I would be more than happy with a basic IMAP client. Then later, to be able to forward a URL or insert the webpage content (like Safari on macOS) into a new message would be a welcome feature.

Support of Exchange would be awesome (for work) and I know of a few Linux users who would welcome this

Ayespy

@otto The Vivaldi roadmap does not contain dates. M3 is getting heavy emphasis. If a basic IMAP client were the target (depending on the definition of "basic") it would already be out.

Discussion of anticipated abilities and support is not in the cards. It will be released, the Vivaldi team will be flooded with requests and demands as to what more it should have or be able to do, and we will go from there.

Motionshot

@Ayespy said in Mail M3?:

@otto The Vivaldi roadmap does not contain dates.

Technically, no. But both in another topic called "An Open Letter to Jon" and in a recent article from CNet, Jon confirmed that M3 will come in 2019. So no exact date, but he did confirm that M3 is on the roadmap for 2019.

luetage

@Motionshot M3 was on the roadmap for 2018 too and the article doesn't promise a release in 2019. I'm sure they would like to release it this year though. All the while I would have loved to use inbuilt mail 3 years ago… : P

jon

@Motionshot , we are getting closer. Obviously I have been using M3 for a pretty long time now and so have a number of people inside Vivaldi and some Sopranos. It does most things I need it to do, but there are still bugs to fix and there are still features to add. We do hope to release this year and personally I think we will, but it has to be ready.

Does ready mean it will have all the features everyone wants? No. We will release a first version that does a lot of cool stuff and then we improve on that.

Cheers,
Jon.

otto

@Motionshot Thanks for the reference. You made my day!

otto

@jon Thanks for confirming this. I'm really looking forward to having a native mail client as part of Vivaldi, like in the old days.

SbbKbb

@jon

Can you assure me/us that after M3 comes and possibly the Vivaldi version for Win7 x64 actually look like it belongs here and not in Win10 your management wont conclude that the user-base is low and that you will throw all away and start/split/abandon <Vivaldi like Opera and star new?

I dont think im willing to wait another 10 years for my browser so someone can throw half or more its user-base under the bus and give them the middle finger? No offense Jon,especially to you.I Admire you and your will. Thank you!!!!

jon

@SbbKbb , I am trying to make sure I understand your question. Clearly Vivaldi is all about individual requirements.

With regards to M3, our goal is for M3 to be an integral part of Vivaldi. We were all disappointed that M2 got cancelled after I left Opera.

If your question is about OS support, we try to our best ability to support platforms as widely and as long as possible. We did that during my time at Opera, where we supported older OS versions for longer than the OS vendor. Now, as we are based on Chromium, we are dependent on Chromium to continue supporting the OS in question. If Chromium stops supporting an OS version, it will likely become hard for us to continue doing so for a long time as the code changes and maintenance becomes harder.

Cheers,
Jon.

kurai

@jon 1. Will there be public testing of the M3?
2. Is there a desire / opportunity from Vivaldi developers to buy M2 and continue its development?

Ayespy

@kurai M3 will be released first in a Snapshot, and public testing will begin.

M2 is a Presto product. Presto belongs to Opera. It is not for sale.

jon

I would like to add that clearly M3 will become, and already is in many ways, a better product than M2. M2 was great, but as @Ayespy says, it was tightly integrated with Presto. Even with access to that code, it would have been difficult to use it. M3 is a totally new code base.

Cheers,
Jon.

SbbKbb

@jon

Sorry Jon if i appeared harsh. I still use Opera 12.18 as my main browser and m2 is unmatched (till m3 comes out i hope) but i cant shake the filing that the core is rotten and by core i mean chromium and it will byte us all in the ass some day.

For that reason iv wrote that i admire you and everything you and your team are done and are still doing,but iv been with Opera from the beginning and i still cant believe that all your hard work (Opera 12) is just siting on some server because some stupid laws and more stupider decisions when even today without updates for many years now its still the best and fastest browser.

What i m trying to say is that at some point when chromium decides that this or that is not needed i will have a heart attack I wish i was an optimist like you.

You are my Hero Jon!