[Feature Request] Best of the best: Opera Presto Features
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Okay, I've got one … a feature that to the best of my knowledge, only original Opera / Opera Presto had it and NO ONE else has ever had it.
The famous Extended Progress Bar that one could have down at the bottom of the page. I have Dial Up Internet and that Extended Progress Bar was always VERY helpful … positively awesome ... a lifesaver! YES!
With all other Browsers, be it Firefox, Chrome or even the NEW Opera, which is what I use now ... one only gets a pathetically vague indication that "Data is Loading" or something to that effect. Oh sure, "Data is Loading ..." but at what speed? Is it loading at optimum speed ... 50% speed ... or some snail's pace 33%? With the old Opera Extended Progress Bar I always knew whether data was loading at optimum speed, a decent acceptable speed or whether it was crawling for some reason and I needed to abort and retry the loading of whatever.
So yeah, for me, that old Opera Extended Progress Bar was not only very helpful, but it definitely distinguished itself, set itself apart from the rest of the pack of ho hum "me too" cookie cutter indications of Data Loading of all other Browsers.
Hey, I'm easy to please. That Extended Progress Bar along with the soon to be incorporated Mail Client and Bookmarks ... and the already brought back Prodigal Son NOTES function and I don't see why Vivaldi won't be my Browser of choice.
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Must optimize/improve for old systems. I remember … My old computer was very very slow and I had 6-7 browsersin my Win7. Every browser worked very slowly but Opera start fast, run fast etc. :cheer: :woohoo:
Vivaldi???
I concur with you there, U.F.U.K. I've always had older, non-state of the art computers AND Dial Up Internet and while ALL OTHER Browsers always choked, gagged, coughed, stumbled and plain ole sucked and failed to perform remotely decently on my older systems … somehow original Opera and now NEW Opera seem to do something differently behind the scenes that makes them the ONLY Browsers that can handle my older systems and my Dial Up.
Hopefully Vivaldi will also have that secret Turbo Charged ingredient that makes it perform well on my older systems and not join Firefox and Chrome on my Underachievers Scrap Heap. :lol:
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I want to mention what a thrill it is to see Jon posting here.
When the Lord High Mucky-Muck is down in the trenches with the users, you know you are being heard. The developers can only do what they can do, and only as fast as they can do it. But there is nothing more frustrating than sending a signal into a vacuum and never knowing if it arrives. As long as the team is this small, and activity this intense, I look forward to seeing the boss man walking the halls and checking in on everyone. It's a real spirit-lifter.
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I want to mention what a thrill it is to see Jon posting here.
+1000
In my case I'm very pleased to see that he confirmed something I guessed (and wrote) before.
That means I don't have hallucinations, he really shares my vision. :lol:
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1. Behavior for F2 and search engines like as O12 is required
2. Customizable mouse gestures -
@RRR13:
Opera 1?! Oh, come on, Jon! Use some contemporary references! :))
For example, you can say Vivaldi has more useful features than Opera 99 or whichever is the latest version, which is obviously true, given that Vivaldi has tab stacking.Certainly not a bad point :lol:
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A simple question, Jon. Why create yet another browser? I honestly don't see the point given the vast numbers of people using Chrome, Firefox and Internet Explorer. All of these popular browsers have abandoned the suite model and yet you pursue it. Why? Today is all about mobile browsers and stripped-down desktop browsers that can be added to via extensions. Soon IE will have a new browser complete with Cortana and linked closely with all of one's devices including Xbox. It seems to me that outside of a very small niche group of geeks there will be very little attention given to a suite, particularly since an email client is no longer viewed as important as it was a dozen years ago. I just cannot see this project ever being very successful… outside of this small group ( and yes, 400,000 downloads is very small when compared to the hundreds of millions using other browsers).
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Jon has already answered this question.
"Most of the browsers seem to have a goal of making something simpler and simpler," von Tetzchner told Mashable in an interview. "The advanced user is not really being covered."
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"We are not building a browser for everyone," von Tetzchner said, "but we are building one for people who want more."
Jon von Tetzchner
I can personally attest that he is 100% right. There is NO browser in the current mix that fills my needs. Opera 12.16 did, but since then, nothing has. If he has no other customers in the world, he will have this one.
(But a half million downloads in a week makes me think he may be on to something.)
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It is even on the main page, on the logo thingie: a browser for our friends.
It is made by the group of people who wants more advanced browser for their personal needs AND capable of developing one - what the problem here?
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Pavil82 just can't stand the idea that someone whose idea of the place for browsers in our lives differs from his, could also be right. He's been slamming the concept ever since the TP was released.
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Speed Dial with Live Tiles
By refreshing the whole page I was able to get an idea of what had changed on the pinned pages, weather was especially handy, i.e. 3hour rain forecast.
See Screenshot Opera 12.17[attachment=577]2015-02-07_07-59-22_2015-02-07.png[/attachment]
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pawel82 begin to be boring with this their hatred of Vivaldi browser. If you do not want it, do not use this browser, but do not forbid others to enjoy the new browser. You are not an oracle . :evil:
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I want to mention what a thrill it is to see Jon posting here.
+1, Jon once managed to provide marvellous, stellar browsing experience, he is delivering again - as far I can see from the very new-born Vivaldi-TPs!
but just to be sure:
- F2 / Shift+F2 (clone it from Opera12)
- Ctrl+Enter (clone it!)
- F12 menu (and improve it!)
- FULL FEATURED "Edit site preferences" (and improve it from Opera Presto, e.g. per site zoom,…)
- .ini-files, urlfilter.ini, please
- UI / button customizing
- shortcut-modification with LOGICAL CHAINS
- select/copy links (part of links) as text
- Skins (to save real-estate on my notebook-screen)
P.S.
nobody raving about the new Speeddial with nested subfolders, so far?!?
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deleted double-post due to network problems
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So, no answers from Jon; only his cheerleading squad? I'm well aware of these other statements but in light of some of my more probing concerns, I'd still like to hear HIS response.
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Okay, I've got one … a feature that to the best of my knowledge, only original Opera / Opera Presto had it and NO ONE else has ever had it.
The famous Extended Progress Bar that one could have down at the bottom of the page. I have Dial Up Internet and that Extended Progress Bar was always VERY helpful … positively awesome ... a lifesaver! YES!
With all other Browsers, be it Firefox, Chrome or even the NEW Opera, which is what I use now ... one only gets a pathetically vague indication that "Data is Loading" or something to that effect. Oh sure, "Data is Loading ..." but at what speed? Is it loading at optimum speed ... 50% speed ... or some snail's pace 33%? With the old Opera Extended Progress Bar I always knew whether data was loading at optimum speed, a decent acceptable speed or whether it was crawling for some reason and I needed to abort and retry the loading of whatever.
So yeah, for me, that old Opera Extended Progress Bar was not only very helpful, but it definitely distinguished itself, set itself apart from the rest of the pack of ho hum "me too" cookie cutter indications of Data Loading of all other Browsers.
Hey, I'm easy to please. That Extended Progress Bar along with the soon to be incorporated Mail Client and Bookmarks ... and the already brought back Prodigal Son NOTES function and I don't see why Vivaldi won't be my Browser of choice.
yes i loved this feauture as well with the pop up option!
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- 6. Presto caching mechanism. That shit was and is amazing, Still BEST caching mechanism ever, not a single modern browser tops the way old Opera works with cache
While I agree with the need of bringing back all the Presto features mentioned in this post, this particular one almost brings tears to my eyes. The browsing experience in Presto-era Opera, even without taking into account the advanced features, was (and still is) in another league, and that was greatly thanks to the caching-from-the gods it delivered. If Vivaldi can bring this back, it will become instantly better than all browsers currently in the market (not a tall order, since browser design has somehow kept to a staggering mediocrity despite competition, but still…).
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- 6. Presto caching mechanism. That shit was and is amazing, Still BEST caching mechanism ever, not a single modern browser tops the way old Opera works with cache
While I agree with the need of bringing back all the Presto features mentioned in this post, this particular one almost brings tears to my eyes. The browsing experience in Presto-era Opera, even without taking into account the advanced features, was (and still is) in another league, and that was greatly thanks to the caching-from-the gods it delivered. If Vivaldi can bring this back, it will become instantly better than all browsers currently in the market (not a tall order, since browser design has somehow kept to a staggering mediocrity despite competition, but still…).
Are you serious? Almost brings tears to your eyes? Wow, you really need to get out and smell the fresh air.
Here's the thing that seems to escape most posters here. Are you ready for it? The VAST majority of users online couldn't care less about this stuff. Liken it to buying a car. Most people have no idea what goes on under the hood AND don't care. The comments here remind me of Radio Shack customers. They were a niche group who loved to tinker back in the 70's, 80's and 90's. They were the build-your-own computer crowd… the early geeks/nerds. And today? Today Radio Shack is bankrupt and the stores are being readied to be sold off. Why? Because no one cares about this stuff anymore. Resurrecting a browser that is a suite is so 90's. People today don't care about email clients and having 10,000 bookmarks managed along with playing infinitely with dozens and dozens of open tabs (outside of the geek squad whose numbers are exceedingly small and who are notoriously cheap anyway and for the most part would not pay for the suite). This is the playground of a niche group and as was demonstrated by Opera ASA, it doesn't pay the bills or sell - period. I am flabbergasted that Jon and company would think there might be a market for this sort of thing. Look at what the big boys are doing - you know, the ones who know how to make money because they know what the people want and they deliver it to them: Google, Apple, Microsoft, Mozilla. Are they building suites? Ha! They gave that antiquated idea up a dozen years ago. And why? The vast majority of people don't have the specialized needs of this niche group and frankly couldn't care less about it. There's no forward-looking here but rather a backward glancing which ultimately spells failure. I'm amazed that this is even being considered given the direction the really important companies are heading in. How many people surf with dozens and dozens of tabs open? How many people worry about tens of thousands of bookmarks when research demonstrates that the majority of people today couldn't care less about them. Outside of a speed dial to handle a dozen or so frequently visited sites, search engines have eclipsed the need for bookmark managers. Besides, my guess is that those who claim to have more than a few hundred bookmarks have no idea which are still active and in all probability what they even have archived. And the fact is, websites come and go so quickly that sites you have bookmarked are often gone by the time you decide to revisit them along with the fact that many of them are irrelevant and outdated. Like I said, this is the sort of thing we did back in the 90's, not today. It seems many of you are stuck in some sort of time warp here and operating as though the date was 1998 rather than 2015.
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Ah, trolls telling us why we shouldn't want what we want. Just like the old times!
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I suggest you do not feed the troll Pavil82.