[Feature Request] Best of the best: Opera Presto Features
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However, Vivaldi is the first glimmer of hope since the time when "Chropera" let me down. I'm willing to give it a try and place my faith in another attempt of "Opera resurrection" (yes, I'm aware Vv isn't exactly that) yet again.
In my country we are used to say "the good day is seen from the morning", in Vivaldi case the sunrise looks promising to me. (in the Opium case looked ugly).
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Personally, I'm happy with my current opera 12.17 as it is.
The only issue I'm facing is slow JS engine and rendering engine overall and outdated Secure browsing. The rest is absolutely what i want from browser.
I understand that Viv never will be another Opera but it indeed shows promise.
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Give us some time. I can tell you that what we have now is a lot better than Opera 1.0 beta 1.
A number of us did Opera before. We are not aiming to do Opera. We are aiming to do more. Opera was always about innovation and we aim to innovate. We also aim to provide a lot of functionality and we already have a number of the items you have on your list and more is coming.
Cheers,
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Must optimize/improve for old systems. I remember … My old computer was very very slow and I had 6-7 browsersin my Win7. Every browser worked very slowly but Opera start fast, run fast etc. :cheer: :woohoo:
Vivaldi???
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That is not the easiest task for us given that we are based on Chromium, but we will gradually improve. That is our goal.
Cheers,
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I'd like to see, in whatever manner it could be created, the capability of adding function buttons to a bar. I'd like to see some common buttons included, plus the ability of custom buttons being created/added. Function buttons like: a 'referrer' toggle, a JavaScript toggle, I-Frames toggle, "Open with ___ browser", open vivaldi://flags, show source code, pop-up toggle, and so on. Such capability was really important to aiding different users in quickly adjusting Opera configuration/functionality; it would be equally valuable in Vivaldi.
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I will make it simple:
(note: by "Presto" I mean old Opera line up to 12.17)- 7. Global ability to enable/disable plugin or load by request, old good images policy: cached,disabled,show all; quick Javascript engine on/off toggle, quick proxy on/off toggle, disable animated images, etc
I don't think Opera should be renamed Vivaldi: all these points seem a revival, but point number 7 would be the one I'd appreciate to see in Vivaldi.
I would also reaaally appreciate an implementation of a "hide multimedia" switch (that is: ON/OFF/FLASH ONLY/STREAM ONLY) that'd allow me to selectively hide multimedia contents (ALL, or selected ones).
Something like "hide images", but for multimedia.Images where "heavy" bandwidth eaters in the '90s… today unwanted streaming multimedia are those I wish I could selectively block.
newscpq
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Okay, I've got one … a feature that to the best of my knowledge, only original Opera / Opera Presto had it and NO ONE else has ever had it.
The famous Extended Progress Bar that one could have down at the bottom of the page. I have Dial Up Internet and that Extended Progress Bar was always VERY helpful … positively awesome ... a lifesaver! YES!
With all other Browsers, be it Firefox, Chrome or even the NEW Opera, which is what I use now ... one only gets a pathetically vague indication that "Data is Loading" or something to that effect. Oh sure, "Data is Loading ..." but at what speed? Is it loading at optimum speed ... 50% speed ... or some snail's pace 33%? With the old Opera Extended Progress Bar I always knew whether data was loading at optimum speed, a decent acceptable speed or whether it was crawling for some reason and I needed to abort and retry the loading of whatever.
So yeah, for me, that old Opera Extended Progress Bar was not only very helpful, but it definitely distinguished itself, set itself apart from the rest of the pack of ho hum "me too" cookie cutter indications of Data Loading of all other Browsers.
Hey, I'm easy to please. That Extended Progress Bar along with the soon to be incorporated Mail Client and Bookmarks ... and the already brought back Prodigal Son NOTES function and I don't see why Vivaldi won't be my Browser of choice.
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Must optimize/improve for old systems. I remember … My old computer was very very slow and I had 6-7 browsersin my Win7. Every browser worked very slowly but Opera start fast, run fast etc. :cheer: :woohoo:
Vivaldi???
I concur with you there, U.F.U.K. I've always had older, non-state of the art computers AND Dial Up Internet and while ALL OTHER Browsers always choked, gagged, coughed, stumbled and plain ole sucked and failed to perform remotely decently on my older systems … somehow original Opera and now NEW Opera seem to do something differently behind the scenes that makes them the ONLY Browsers that can handle my older systems and my Dial Up.
Hopefully Vivaldi will also have that secret Turbo Charged ingredient that makes it perform well on my older systems and not join Firefox and Chrome on my Underachievers Scrap Heap. :lol:
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I want to mention what a thrill it is to see Jon posting here.
When the Lord High Mucky-Muck is down in the trenches with the users, you know you are being heard. The developers can only do what they can do, and only as fast as they can do it. But there is nothing more frustrating than sending a signal into a vacuum and never knowing if it arrives. As long as the team is this small, and activity this intense, I look forward to seeing the boss man walking the halls and checking in on everyone. It's a real spirit-lifter.
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I want to mention what a thrill it is to see Jon posting here.
+1000
In my case I'm very pleased to see that he confirmed something I guessed (and wrote) before.
That means I don't have hallucinations, he really shares my vision. :lol:
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1. Behavior for F2 and search engines like as O12 is required
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@RRR13:
Opera 1?! Oh, come on, Jon! Use some contemporary references! :))
For example, you can say Vivaldi has more useful features than Opera 99 or whichever is the latest version, which is obviously true, given that Vivaldi has tab stacking.Certainly not a bad point :lol:
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A simple question, Jon. Why create yet another browser? I honestly don't see the point given the vast numbers of people using Chrome, Firefox and Internet Explorer. All of these popular browsers have abandoned the suite model and yet you pursue it. Why? Today is all about mobile browsers and stripped-down desktop browsers that can be added to via extensions. Soon IE will have a new browser complete with Cortana and linked closely with all of one's devices including Xbox. It seems to me that outside of a very small niche group of geeks there will be very little attention given to a suite, particularly since an email client is no longer viewed as important as it was a dozen years ago. I just cannot see this project ever being very successful… outside of this small group ( and yes, 400,000 downloads is very small when compared to the hundreds of millions using other browsers).
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Jon has already answered this question.
"Most of the browsers seem to have a goal of making something simpler and simpler," von Tetzchner told Mashable in an interview. "The advanced user is not really being covered."
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"We are not building a browser for everyone," von Tetzchner said, "but we are building one for people who want more."
Jon von Tetzchner
I can personally attest that he is 100% right. There is NO browser in the current mix that fills my needs. Opera 12.16 did, but since then, nothing has. If he has no other customers in the world, he will have this one.
(But a half million downloads in a week makes me think he may be on to something.)
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It is even on the main page, on the logo thingie: a browser for our friends.
It is made by the group of people who wants more advanced browser for their personal needs AND capable of developing one - what the problem here?
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Pavil82 just can't stand the idea that someone whose idea of the place for browsers in our lives differs from his, could also be right. He's been slamming the concept ever since the TP was released.
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Speed Dial with Live Tiles
By refreshing the whole page I was able to get an idea of what had changed on the pinned pages, weather was especially handy, i.e. 3hour rain forecast.
See Screenshot Opera 12.17[attachment=577]2015-02-07_07-59-22_2015-02-07.png[/attachment]
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pawel82 begin to be boring with this their hatred of Vivaldi browser. If you do not want it, do not use this browser, but do not forbid others to enjoy the new browser. You are not an oracle . :evil:
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I want to mention what a thrill it is to see Jon posting here.
+1, Jon once managed to provide marvellous, stellar browsing experience, he is delivering again - as far I can see from the very new-born Vivaldi-TPs!
but just to be sure:
- F2 / Shift+F2 (clone it from Opera12)
- Ctrl+Enter (clone it!)
- F12 menu (and improve it!)
- FULL FEATURED "Edit site preferences" (and improve it from Opera Presto, e.g. per site zoom,…)
- .ini-files, urlfilter.ini, please
- UI / button customizing
- shortcut-modification with LOGICAL CHAINS
- select/copy links (part of links) as text
- Skins (to save real-estate on my notebook-screen)
P.S.
nobody raving about the new Speeddial with nested subfolders, so far?!?