Solved Where is the bug tracker?

Koolio

Like bugzilla for mozilla.. where is the vivaldi equivalent tracking website?

Pesala

@koolio The bug tracker is closed. Some insiders have access to it.

Gort

There isn't an open one and I've never understood why. This has been the case in the old Opera and also in Vivaldi. I can understand the need to hide security bugs, but I can't understand the reason to not show other kinds of bugs.

If there was some Bugzilla for Vivaldi, it'd help in tracking the bugs, curtail the amount of bug duplicates due to ignorance about what bug reports have been filed, and allow users to see if bugs that interest them have been acknowledged by the devs so that they can keep an eye out for the progress of such bugs.

Still, for whatever reason, Vivaldi has kept with the Opera secret bug reporting. I'm sure they've heard all the arguments before and haven't been swayed by them, but that doesn't stop the wondering why.

Gort

Sure, I've been using Vivaldi and Opera before it for enough time to know that the decision about a public bug tracker has been made for specific reasons. That still doesn't answer the whys about such a decision. Just seems like a wrong move to me, but then I'm only human and do err.

Gort

@gwen-dragon Thanks for those answers. I do get that there are drawbacks, like the ones you mention, even if I do think a public bug tracker would be beneficial. I just wish there was some official response against it, seeing that a public bug tracker has been requested over the years. Then again, maybe I missed it.

Anyway, thanks for your time.

Koolio

they should have a private and public tracker like https://issuetracker.unity3d.com/

Blackbird

@koolio said in Where is the bug tracker?:

they should have a private and public tracker like https://issuetracker.unity3d.com/

Actually, there is no "should". Whatever mechanism Vivaldi chooses to use in tracking software bugs is theirs alone to decide, as is the level of public access they choose to apply, if any. The browser is free, and the terms and conditions of its development are entirely up to Vivaldi. Depending on how a bug tracker is used internally, there may be all kinds of proprietary or easily misunderstood traffic derivable from the tracker besides the bug IDs or descriptions users may be aware of. How bugs are handled, grouped, or their specific progress all contain potentially proprietary information that could be mined about the nature and pace of browser development.

Moreover, the care and feeding of user inquiries about a specific bug's progress (or lack), the meaning of developer notes about it, and so on would all represent an added overhead burden not needed for a private bug tracker. Finally, how bugs are allocated for fixing is almost certainly affected by the internal workflow of regular development (eg: fixing a bug in a particular menu would most likely be best done while redesigning or updating that same menu in normal workflow; alternatively, it might best be handled during a general repair or revision of the entire menu scheme); until internal workflow picks up a related bug, there would appear to be no progress on the bug, and that would almost certainly lead to the same user complaints as occur when there is no public access to bug tracking.

Rammix

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iAN CooG

This week there were 3 snapshots with fixes, that's what really matters to me and people shouldn't bother to look at the bugtracker, what difference makes to anyone to look at some list of unfixed issues? Fixes are coming out, in given time. Just do your part and report.

derDay

I repeat a very nice idea, which someone wrote in one of the past blogposts:
setup an autoresponder, where everyone can send a mail with the bugnumber in the subject line to get the status back, like internally not reproducable, internally fixed, open, duplicated with VB-xxx and so one

IMO the lack of knowing what happend with the reported bug is a big annoyance for the users

derDay

@gwen-dragon
ok, done (VB-34514)

iAN CooG

If one wants really badly to access BT and all:

gain some respect points by being helpful to the community,
propose to become a Soprano to mods/admins,
get access to bugtracker, daily snapshots and be more in contact to devs.
???
profit!

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