Keyboard shortcuts conflict on Google Docs
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Thanks, that'll work for now but the issue should still be resolved at some point, most other browsers don't have this issue.
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Hello,
I'm having issues when i'm trying to insert a date in google spreadsheet.
The shortcuts are "Ctrl + ;" "Ctrl + alt + shift + ;" for example.
Nothing happen.I tryed :
- Enabling override browser shortcut in Google SpreadSheet (Help > Keyboard Shortcuts > Override browser shortcuts)
- Disabling vivaldi shortcuts.
It is still not working.
It works when i try on Firefox btw.
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18DejpyHR0LH29uCycm4HpjQn07uy5iYSMpa4Fd-47lw/edit?usp=sharing
You can do whatever you want on this one.
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@gwen-dragon Hey Gwen, any news ?
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@gwen-dragon Ok I'm going to try on Windows
Vivaldi 1.12.955.36 x64
Fr Azerty keyboard
Linux legendance 4.9.8-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Feb 8 18:08:18 CET 2017 x86_64 GNU/Linux -
You was right, it works using an US-English layout.
This doesn't works :
[purgator@legendance ~]$ setxkbmap -print -verbose 10 Setting verbose level to 10 locale is C Trying to load rules file ./rules/evdev... Trying to load rules file /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev... Success. Applied rules from evdev: rules: evdev model: pc105 layout: fr options: compose:menu Trying to build keymap using the following components: keycodes: evdev+aliases(azerty) types: complete compat: complete symbols: pc+fr+inet(evdev)+compose(menu) geometry: pc(pc105) xkb_keymap { xkb_keycodes { include "evdev+aliases(azerty)" }; xkb_types { include "complete" }; xkb_compat { include "complete" }; xkb_symbols { include "pc+fr+inet(evdev)+compose(menu)" }; xkb_geometry { include "pc(pc105)" }; };This works :
[purgator@legendance ~]$ setxkbmap -print -verbose 10 Setting verbose level to 10 locale is C Trying to load rules file ./rules/evdev... Trying to load rules file /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev... Success. Applied rules from evdev: rules: evdev model: pc105 layout: us options: compose:menu Trying to build keymap using the following components: keycodes: evdev+aliases(qwerty) types: complete compat: complete symbols: pc+us+inet(evdev)+compose(menu) geometry: pc(pc105) xkb_keymap { xkb_keycodes { include "evdev+aliases(qwerty)" }; xkb_types { include "complete" }; xkb_compat { include "complete" }; xkb_symbols { include "pc+us+inet(evdev)+compose(menu)" }; xkb_geometry { include "pc(pc105)" }; }; -
With the Spanish keyboard it does not work either
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@gwen-dragon It always worked on Firefox with Fr azerty layout. That veeeery strange. Why it works under Firefox ? :o I may mail google but honestly that seems weird that they made a mistake.
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I reported the bug on Google spreadsheet.
I don't think it's relevant to report the bug for Vivaldi
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@gwen-dragon Nope, on spreadsheet feedback from the help menu. I have not found anything more.
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I have this issue too. Asking us to remap standard shortcuts is a bit of an annoyance. I'm sure it depends on the website you are using whether you'd want this behavior or not. But in the case of google docs I'm very used to using Ctrl+F in other browsers (firefox and chrome) and getting the google docs find window rather than the native browser find window. I don't think using the native find has any application in the context of google docs.
As a workaround I did map F3 to find and it's a daily annoyance to remember that, on all websites other than google docs, I should be using F3 rather than standard Ctrl+F I have been using for many many years.
Why can't vivaldi behave as other browsers or at the very least give us the option to customize the behavior?
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@browseruser said in keyboard shortcut conflict on google docs:
Asking us to remap standard shortcuts is a bit of an annoyance.
I don't know why anyone would vote down a helpful workaround. The issue is well known, and a search would have found many threads on this topic. Since it is not as easy to fix as you might imagine, editing the default shortcuts is the best solution.
Note that Ctrl F will search the current topic on this forum
Or use the search function on the black toolbar, limit the search to the Feature Requests forum for the last three months.
@komposten said in Feature requests for 1.13:
Disable keyboard shortcuts while typing.
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I guess you're implying I down voted you which I did not. Nonetheless my comment still stands and while your workaround is helpful and certainly better than nothing it's far from an ideal for an end user. Thanks however for the referenced feature request, which is helpful because I can up vote it.
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Not sure about the other shortcuts mentioned, but I'm seeing unpredictable conflicts with single-key shortcuts (1, 2, etc) and editing in Google Docs.
For example, I'll hit '1' and the tab selection will shift left.
This happens, perhaps not randomly, but in a way that I can't figure out. When I test it to try to make it happen, it doesn't happen. When I'm actually working, it often does. Very strange.
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Still open to any ideas of how to avoid the single-key shortcut conflict with Google Docs. I don't want them to apply in Google Docs.
It's treacherous: You're going along in a Doc, use a number like 1 or 2, and when you least expect it, wham, you've switched tabs.
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@rseiler The status of Numlock might also affect the behaviour.
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Numlock is normally off here, since I don't use the number pad.
Anyway, I really wish this issue would get some attention, because Docs borders on unusable this way.
And it's not even the only issue:
https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/36576/google-docs-loosing-input-focus-after-ctrl-tab-switch/2 -
@rseiler said in keyboard shortcut conflict on google docs:
I don't want them to apply in Google Docs.
Just turn them off when you're in Google Docs. There's an action to disable keyboard shortcuts that you can map to any keyboard shortcut you want, as well as to any mouse gesture.
it's far from an ideal for an end user
Actually, it's better than just solving this single issue. Providing users the ability to remap keyboard shortcuts really allows them to make the browser respond to the way they like to work. That's the guiding philosophy behind Vivaldi, making the browser adapt to the user's preferences and workflows, which vary widely from user to user. Personally, I have highly customized the keyboard shortcuts such that I don't even remember what the defaults are anymore. I also have highly customized my keyboard, flashing the firmware to update the key maps whenever I've got an idea on how to improve it. With multiple custom layers, macros, dual-function keys, meh & hyper keys, I really appreciate the flexibility that Vivaldi provides with the keyboard shortcuts, it's not commonly found in other software. It also happens to solve a bunch of other problems such as this one.
it's a daily annoyance to remember that
You only ever need to recall one keyboard shortcut, whatever you have mapped to the action "Keyboard Cheat Sheet", this pop up a list of all the defined keyboard shortcuts you have and what they do. I suppose you might want to also memorize the one assigned to disabling keyboard shortcuts if you use that action, because you'd have to turn them back on before you can pop up the cheat sheet. So, usually just 1, maximum 2.
If you regularly use your keyboard shortcuts, eventually you don't really recall what they are in order to use them. You just think about the action you want to perform and muscle memory takes over. I don't recall Ctrl-Alt-Shift-S to open my settings in Vivaldi, I think open my settings and my left hand holds down one key and then strikes another and lets go of both.
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@bonetone If going that route, only a mouse gesture would make sense for the drastic option of disabling shortcuts entirely, since afterwards you'd be forced to visit options manually.
That idea is a last resort.
First resort is to just fix the issue so that it doesn't happen to an extremely highly visible site like this. That makes the most sense since it would be widely felt. This is broken functionality and should be fixed (along with the related issue that I linked to). We're not talking about a minor site here or this being a new problem. Time enough has passed.
Second resort would be to give us the option to disable single-key shortcuts per site, but feature requests can take several years, so this is barely worth mentioning.
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@rseiler I'm not following, why would you need to visit options manually, and why must you only use a mouse gesture for it? I don't see the reasoning for either.
It's really quite simple to set up custom keyboard shortcuts if you don't want to have conflicts with this one site. It's also really easy to just toggle which keyboard shortcuts are active, Vivaldi's or the site's. Just like there is the action for popping up a cheat sheet to see what keyboard shortcuts you have assigned, there is even action to popup the list of keyboard shortcuts that a site defines, assuming they properly use webpage access keys.
I think this is mostly a user education issue, rather than a lack of functionality.
I post from my phone frequently, which likes to change "the" to "three". If you see three or similar, I probably meant "the". I use swipe, so typos can be totally unrelated words to what I intended. Knowing this should help you read through my typos.
