Vivaldi powers up the Start Page and adds docked Dev Tools

Mioni

@dLeon Nice now i am waiting for theme colors

JuniorSilva30

@eronix said in Vivaldi powers up the Start Page and adds docked Dev Tools:

Good work, as always. Now, it would be great if you could add a first version of the email client in one of the next Vivaldi releases.

I think this would not be good! It would only disrupt the team because the users would be commenting on bugs etc. Even knowing that the email client is not ready.
For me, it's better to let the team work and when it's almost ready to release, releasing now would be a mistake (for me). Many users would not understand that the email client is in the test phase and would ask for resources, talk about bugs, etc. That would not help ...

mdnjou

@JuniorSilva30 Uhm, this is exactly what Snapshots are for. To talk about bugs and fix them before the next Stable release. The more people join in the better, who will of course know they are using a Snapshot that is not yet final. Which-ever version @eronix was talking about, the next final version will be stable.

mib2berlin

@JuniorSilva30 Hi, I think different about release email client "WIR".
Software is never ready and you need many user for testing, bug reporting and so forth. Internal testing is and was never work for software.
Microsoft gave Windows 10 for testing one year before release date and it was full of Bugs and security issues.
May Vivaldi should name browser BETA or ALPHA and not Snapshot.

Cheers, mib

JuniorSilva30

@mdnjou I just think it's not the time yet, I think it would mess up, and I believe that internal testers do a lot of work to help improve the email client, many users reporting bugs, asking for recourses would not help (I think) , Because the internal testers do this and obviously know it's a long work, so it's one step at a time, releasing everyone in some snapshot at the moment, would have users complaining, complaining ... So I guess when I'm almost done , there will be released in some snapshot and fix the errors before reaching the final version.

Note: I do not know how the e-mail client walks, so it's just a comment based on some comments from internal testers. Maybe it's point to be released in the next snapshots or maybe not, we do not know ... But from what I realize, it is not yet ready to be released to the public ...

Pesala

@mib2berlin Public Beta testing is not the same as private Beta testing.

When users sign up to a private Beta test they are experienced users who are well able to recover lost data, and only blame themselves if they fail to backup properly.

Snapshots are effectively for public beta testing. Vivaldi's reputation will be ruined if they release mail or sync before it is reasonably stable, and Tom, Dick, and Mary lose their precious emails, bookmarks, or other private data.

mib2berlin

Hi again, this was not meant as offense again the private beta testers.
I do this several times by myself and know how much effort is needed to make the job.

Happy testing, mib

jonmc

@d0j0p: this is awesome, thanks for sharing!

jonmc

@firestrike: We made it available here: https://vivaldi.com/press/wallpapers/vivaldi-stars.jpg

Aronand

@juniorsilva30: Here are the specs: Background: #100f0f Fore: #959595 Highl: #f10c0f Accent: #343434 rounding to default. And accent color to window enabled.

Cqoicebordel

@d0j0p: Nicely done !
Maybe creating a public album in Google Photos, or similar, to allow people to upload directly if they want ? Just an idea

Kitlard

What about Sync????

n1ckp

One of my bug, VB-28284 - address field [popup menu] do not display if "search in address field" is disabled, also seems to have been fixed in 1.10.867.38 (maybe fixed by VB-27583? Not sure). Congrats to the vivaldi team for this nice release!

highstream

I'm sorry, but I just don't see the basics with the Start Page/Speed Dial:

I've had columns set to 6 for quite some time and it''s never gone beyond three very large tiles across;
When I go to add a new site, it's not called a Speed Dial or thumbnail, but a bookmark. Traditionally, the latter is a different thing.
When I go to add a new site from a page that's open, it doesn't show under suggestions, as one might expect, but has to be typed (at least part way). Why not?
Thumbnail size needs in some way to be put under user control. I've got webpage zoom set at 80%, but that seem to apply to the Speed Dial/Start Page
I think it's a mistake (pretentious) to call the Speed Dial page a Start Page - Opera now does this too - since the actual user start page is by setting a user choice, not yours.

Omen_20

The update pretends to install and then when it reloads Vivaldi, it's still on 1.9.818.44 Windows 10.

Hadden89

@Omen_20 path to vivaldi? admin or limited account? 3rd party security software? You could try to launch as admin the browser; that's strange.. never happened.

CommonwealthAlliance

Excellent! There is no more reason why I should use Opera instead of Vivaldi for website development.

D0J0P

@jonmc: I'm glad you like them! And it's great to get some recognition from the Vivaldi team!

D0J0P

@cqoicebordel: Well, the original idea came out from JuniorSilva30's thread he created where he shared some of his thumbs, and so I shared a bunch of mine on there as well. Maybe a really good idea, which I've had on my mind, is to have a dedicated page where people upload their SD thumbnails in a kind of app store like UI, where we can all check them out, download the ones we want. And the information can be seen on the SD thumbnail packs for the name of it, the user/creator's name, etc. and we can even give ratings if we want. That would be pretty cool

Peavy3000

Tree-style tabs, sync, and mobile version, and I'll never look at Firefox again!