Vivaldi M3 - mail client, when?
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If we could at least have some sneak peak screenshots to sweeten the waiting time.
But I guess those would also spoil the surprise. Because when M3 finally comes out, it will be awesome and have everything I want in an email client.People will say: "Wow! Finally a client that gets the conversation view right." because the got used to it using GMail. They will say "Woohoo. I didn't expect full PGP and S/MIME support from the beginning!" and "cool! an integrated GTD workflow for my mails that even has a snooze button!"
We wouldn't want to spoil those surprises.. or would we?
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well–- currently thunderbird is using up too much ram and im trying alternatives, tho none come close. maybe ye'ol integrated mail client would do
looking forward to itIncreasingly, I believe developers don't really spend much time any more coding in order to conserve RAM. For eMail, I still use the now-out-of-production PocoMail (4Mb RAM, circa 2010) to download and access a local stored/current portfolio of 3,500 eMails, whereas my backup Thunderbird installation (2016) on the same Win7 system consumes 70 Mb to download and access its local portfolio of about 50 eMails, with a few less program features. That's a 17-fold increase in basic RAM consumption with little or nothing to show for it.
The current development perspective for most software seems to be that RAM is cheap and plentiful, so developers code accordingly… which is OK, unless one's system RAM is neither plentiful or expandable, for whatever reason(s) - a situation that occurs most frequently on older or highly-portable systems or when heavy multi-tasking is occurring on a system. There is still a lot to be said for the old days of 'tight coding' of programs…
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@magnani:
It feels like waiting for the Berlin Airport to open…...
One would not want Berlin Airport to open until air-traffic control, security, and all the fire crews were ready.
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@magnani:
It feels like waiting for the Berlin Airport to open…...
One would not want Berlin Airport to open until air-traffic control, security, and all the fire crews were ready.
Don't forget baggage handling either :lol:
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Hopefully, the email client version will be released for all platforms simultaneously. I'd hate to wait another aeon for a Linux release after Windows. Reasons are obvious :blink:
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This is the only thing I wait for until I switch browser+mail client for good, I look forward to skip Thunderbird and Chrome.
I hope the spamfilter will be as good as before, as my own spamfilter with spamassassin and greyfilter doesn't work good enough. (If they were, I would probably stop using the client all together).
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how come the devs never mention any progress on this?
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@Pesala said in M3 - mail client, when?:
I look forward two seeing the first email client ever with a grammar chequer. It would be grate for chequing text in form posts to.
I don't use Outlook very much but since its editor is based on Word/Office, I do believe it has had a grammar checker for many years now.
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@Gwen-Dragon said in M3 - mail client, when?:
But you may write it in some office textwriter program, which has real grammar checking, and copy&paste it into the mail client.
That won't happen unless I am writing an important blog post or something. For regular forum use it would be enough to flag common homophones like their, they're, there, or you and you're.
There are some Open Source lightproof sentence checkers for English. If it's added for English, then other authors may gradually create the sources for other languages.
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@Quinca71 I tried an extension called Grammerly. It's OK, but just a bit too intrusive. It may be helpful for non-native English speakers.
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@Quinca71 said in M3 - mail client, when?:
May the long digression be forgiven me.
Sometimes I have the impression that you're using some sort of a Yoda translator, but that's fine...
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I still like M2.
I won't need a mail client waisting so much space on my disk or in my compters memory. … cause its a Chromium … . -
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@Gwen-Dragon - Judging by my recent debugging experiences with M3, I doubt Jon will be able to give anything like a firm date. But I do know he's anxious to get it out there, and we are closing in on it. The guys are pouncing on bugs like cats on catnip, and resolving things fast. It's just that the project is SOOOOOO complex...
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@Gwen-Dragon said in M3 - mail client, when?:
@Ayespy Oh yes, we are hunting and catching these bugs like cats running and meowing for valeria officinalis
M3 is very nice now, but it is not complete ready for the public. Some bugs are not severe, more cosmetic, but we do not want to show them.
M3 in its adolescence does not look always perfect, it may have some little problems with acne or acme like other youngsters.
OK, i know, a bad comparison, i beg for pardon being so nasty on all adolescents.
JUST LET ME SQUASH BUGS WITH IT AS WELL, DAMNIT!!!?!?!?!?!
Okay, I'm glad I let that out. Back to work...
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@Gwen-Dragon said in M3 - mail client, when?:
M3 is very nice now, but it is not complete ready for the public. Some bugs are not severe, more cosmetic, but we do not want to show them.
we can take it, show it!
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@schreck said in M3 - mail client, when?:
we can take it, show it!
over 2 years in development, this must be some kind of a super client.Really? I'd like a mail client that is properly tested and not deletes every 6th mail that starts with a consonant or other weird stuff.
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then simply dont use it, if youre afraid.
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This has nothing to do with "being afraid of". What I was hinting at (obviously not clear enough) is the following:
Put yourself in place of the developers of the mail client.
You know that everybody is waiting for it. You know that this might be a killer feature and with the old opera mail client there is a pretty feature rich ancestor (and I am sure they'll get compared a lot).
So would you like to release some half assed piece of software that still needs a ton of work or do you want to release some mail client that only needs some tweaking and a bit of minor bug squashing?
My guess is that the first case would cause a lot of users to be disappointed - because a lot of people are excitedly waiting for mail to be released (me included) and will try it the second it is released. So a major let down on the functionality would drive hem away from using it.
On the other hand testing and helping with the bug squashing for a product that is this close >< to be finished is a different thing - and at least for me it even makes fun to help a little in the finishing process if I can pin down a bug or two that is fixed later on.That's what my comment initially was about - but I've to agree that this much of information an thoughts that I had while posting my previous comment is not clearly visible. Sorry for that unclear post of mine.
