V 6.7 | Vertical Tabs | New tab button moved to end of side tab bar
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@Pesala Good, I downgraded back to 6.5 and disabled updates, because I also experienced that 6.7 was stuck on loading tabs after Vivaldi was closed and opened again (I had to close it several times until it unstuck and started loading tabs and pages, Chrome and Firefox worked without any issue at that time) so it's not usable for me in this state...
BTW thanks to the tab grouping, possibility of opening new window or now with workspaces I never had so much tabs in the tab bar (I use it on the right side) which would lead to the hiding New tab bar...
However I still can't understand why there can't be two buttons (so have them in both positions) with possibility of hiding them in configuration?
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@krtektm Downgrading is not a solution. It leaves your system unprotected from the latest exploits, and probably broke your profile already.
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Not happy with this change. I use that button a lot.
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to simply remove this ADD TAB button was a pretty ignorant and not clever decision by the developers or just one super bright of them, which is usually the cause. i thought the vivaldi devs are smarter and wiser than that.
I used this button a lot, now it has just been removed. honestly?
The Vivaldi Developers seem to move into the ignorant Microsoft, Google direction.
"We do what we want, its our product, you shut up and take what we give to you!!"
Bring back that little CROSS to add a new Tab please or add an option for it.
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@Sodokin The button was not removed, but rather anchored to the bottom of the tab bar. As a lot of people aren't happy with this, it will b doubtless be changed.
In the meantime, a double-click in the empty space below the tabs generates a new tab.
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@Ayespy said in V 6.7 | New tab button moved to end of side tab bar:
@Sodokin The button was not removed, but rather anchored to the bottom of the tab bar. As a lot of people aren't happy with this, it will b doubtless be changed.
In the meantime, a double-click in the empty space below the tabs generates a new tab.
It is doubtless this will be changed, but in the meantime…?
The logic here is an absolute slap in the face. It’s stuff like this that makes newer users like me want to run for the hills. I’ll be watching this more closely now from the developers and how they react to a few upset users, but blatant disregard like this in the community is ridiculous.
Some posters have made a decent attempt explaining that it was a bug and whatnot, and said bug was fixed, etcetera. The OP wasn’t asking about alternatives explicitly, they were talking about choice.
Is it possible to bring this back? Through an extension? Through a UX update that still has the mentioned bug squashed? Is it possible that the choice, not alternative means, to return this function to its user(s) without disrupting others having to deal with bugs?
Although I’m not upset too much about the change, I liked the button where it was. A lot. But I also use keyboard shortcuts so no big deal in the long run for me. But for people who used it, myself included for just shy of a year, not having it so suddenly is a drag and not a subtle change for their productivity. I’ll adapt, overcome, it’ll be a long lost memory. But the sheer anxiety to some, the abrupt change with no announcement, no notice or the ability to turn it back on for at least three more updates or something along those lines before it becomes permanent? A phase out? Something, anything. Not everyone adjusts the same. They lost their right to choose. In an environment built on choice. It’s a big deal to them; huge. Don’t brush them off, help them understand and see if real answers can be found. You may not be hurt by this, but others are.
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OK so for those of you desperate to have the new tab button in a more logical place - I agree having it on the bottom is a bit of a stretch - and for some reason unable or unwilling to use
Ctrl+T
here's a workaround in CSS until they add an option to change the position:#browser:not(.tabs-top, .tabs-bottom) .toolbar-tabbar.sync-and-trash-container { order: -1; } #tabs-tabbar-container:has(.separator-wsbutton) { padding-top: 0px !important; } #tabs-tabbar-container .separator.separator-wsbutton { top: 0px; }
HOW TO: https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/guide-modding-vivaldi
The last two selectors are cosmetic, just removes some IMO unnecessary blank space.This might break in unforeseen ways but seems to work ok.
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@Pathduck Kindly asked, can you rewrite this code so that it works when you have placed your table bar on the right?
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@stardepp Works fine with tabs on the right.
If it doesn't work for you I don't know what's wrong. You might have some special setup or existing custom CSS that interferes.
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As far as I am concerned, this is broken. I get the whole "it was actually a bug" but I can see no way that this is the better option. The + after the last tab makes sense, even having it fixed at the top makes more sense, after I realised my install wasn't just broken, down the bottom of the tabs list was the last place I looked.
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@Pesala said in V 6.7 | Vertical Tabs | New tab button moved to end of side tab bar:
@krtektm Downgrading is not a solution. It leaves your system unprotected from the latest exploits, and probably broke your profile already.
Nope, profile from 6.7 works as expected in 6.5 after downgrade, no issues spotted. And security state of my system is not your business
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This is how it looks in Edge, nobody complains but yeah Vivaldi has to be something "special" and "fix bug" by introducing the discomfort for users... I'd expect this from Microsoft, not Vivaldi team.
If anything, I can't understand WHY I can't customize the position of those buttons etc. in the vertical tabs bar, when Vivaldi was mentioned as replacement for crappy Opera by for example keeping the possibility for users to fully customize the browser. I don't like this dictating of how I have to use my computer.
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Just +1
I want it back when it was, super annying change but finding in that post that you can dbl click on empty space to get new tab is a live saving for now. still one more click is wrongMaciej
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I also struggle with that UI change. Try to find a way to get the button back to previous place.
When tabs in horizontal mode, new tab button placed jsut behind tabs as expected. The problem is present only on vertical tabs
For workaround i use mouse gesture "swipe down" to create a new empty tab. This gesture works similarly both on page vew and tab bar.
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Just +1. Double clicking is not a workaround, it is inconvenient. Please revert this change or make an option to move plus button where it was.
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@mrmac189
Hi, the moving taget + button was a bug, this is now fixed.
The solution in Edge is more elegant but if you open some tabs, Edge does the same.
Try hold right mouse button and move down 10 mm, nothing can beat this.Cheers, mib
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