What is this image?
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@yngve said in What is this image?:
I am also unable to reproduce.
This bird ALWAYS appears, for a split second, when a xxxxxx.torrent file is downloaded.
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@Capushon Probably the "closing tab" dead bird; it is an irritating occurrence that has no actual bad effect (aside from the irritation). Happens because some things finish before others, in the "wrong" order, during tab closure, and which we haven't managed to fix yet.
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@yngve said in What is this image?:
Happens because some things finish before others, in the "wrong" order, during tab closure, and which we haven't managed to fix yet.
Where in Bundle.js is the procedure for processing this bird (outputting a picture) so that I can add sound to the procedure and pay attention to errors more often?
like this here:
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@yngve said in What is this image?:
@Capushon Probably the "closing tab" dead bird; it is an irritating occurrence that has no actual bad effect (aside from the irritation). Happens because some things finish before others, in the "wrong" order, during tab closure, and which we haven't managed to fix yet.
that at least explains it, hopefully one day you'll figure it out
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@iAN-CooG said in What is this image?:
that at least explains it, hopefully one day you'll figure it out
Explains what?
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@Capushon It is not part of the bundle, it is implemented as an override of the original Chromium implementation.
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Well it must have been a bug in 6.6.3271.45 because it hasn't happened since the update to 6.6.3271.48 apart from that very first visit. Would that perhaps have been because of something still in a cache?
Nor did it ever happen in M$ Edge, Firefox or Palemoon.
@yngve would that be the cache found at vivaldi://settings/privacy ?
Would I be correct in assuming clearing that cache won't lose any tabs - pinned or hibernated, or any workspaces?
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@ChrisAO123 I've been unable to reproduce it on my machine that has your specs, on Vivaldi Stable. Paradoxically, I HAVE (and so have some other testers) been able to reproduce it on higher-end systems reliably on certain links from Google search results. My understanding is that developers had closed the bug as "fixed" for Vivaldi Stable, and now it's reopened and being looked at by a couple of devs. I tested a certain Google link on five systems here, and it generated the dead bird reliably on 3 of the 5.
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Thanks for that update. I've been searching my history (for something completely different) and discovered I was searching about this problem back on Jan.19th and I would have been using Vivaldi.6.5.3206.55 back then.
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@ChrisAO123 said in What is this image?:
Well it must have been a bug in 6.6.3271.45 because it hasn't happened since the update to 6.6.3271.48 apart from that very first visit. Would that perhaps have been because of something still in a cache?
Nor did it ever happen in M$ Edge, Firefox or Palemoon.
@yngve would that be the cache found at vivaldi://settings/privacy ?
Would I be correct in assuming clearing that cache won't lose any tabs - pinned or hibernated, or any workspaces?
Where/how might I find any crashdumps if there are any? I couldn't spot anywhere obvious.@yngve I was hoping you might respond to my query about the/a cache.
Also I've now had this happen again, same forum but a different post. Couldn't stop it until I closed Vivaldi and reopened it. And I've also had it happen once on https://forums.digitalspy.com/categories/freeview when viewing a post.
And... I had a pop-up yesterday saying Vivaldi had recently detected a crash, would I share Crash logs, to which I replied Yes. Does this happen automatically? Where are the logs?
Still using Vivaldi 6.6.3271.48
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@ChrisAO123
Hi, for crash logs on Windows check:https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/troubleshoot/reporting-crashes-on-windows/
Cheers, mib
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@ChrisAO123 said in What is this image?:
I was hoping you might respond to my query about the/a cache.
The webserver specifies expiration policies of the local browser resource cache, although the browser may have separate policies.
Websites that refresh frequently, like forums, usually specifies immediate expiration, except for static resources.
Whether any cached item is involved is normally impossible to tell, unless one inspects the details of network traffic and page loading in Developer Tools.
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@yngve I did ask specifics about which (the?) cache file and whether deleting it might have consequences and won't lose any tabs - pinned or hibernated, or any workspaces? I was hoping for some guidance on that!
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I have never explored that configuration, so I don't actually know. You might install a standalone and do some experimentation.
For reference, I am still not able to reproduce your example for the dead bird; You might want to update your bug (reply to the email you got) with information about various settings, such as adblocker, cookie config, what you selected on the site cookie banner, whether you are logged in, etc.
I do see a number of log messages in the Developer Tools console.
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Apart from the Content Blocker settings, the information is already in my earlier posts, https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/95785/what-is-this-image/15?_=1710635627987 was the more recent.
My Content Blocker settings for that site are No Blocking.
It makes no difference whether I'm logged in or not, nor whether I accept All cookies (normal) or only Essential cookies as demonstrated with the Guest profile. -
I upgraded to 6.6.3271.50 on the 16th March.
I've now had the same problem when visiting https://ukfree.tv/transmitters/tv/Caradon_Hill/PGSTART500/#pagebar but again not on every visit, in fact, so far, only the first visit! -
@ChrisAO123 My point is that that information is not in the bug report, which is where a tester or dev will mostly look for information about how to reproduce and other relevant information (such as crashdumps).
And BTW, I was not able to reproduce for the second link, either.
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@yngve I attached Crash Dumps to my Bug report.
@Ayespy stated that he's managed to reproduce the issue, as have some others -
@Ayespy said in What is this image?:@ChrisAO123 I've been unable to reproduce it on my machine that has your specs, on Vivaldi Stable. Paradoxically, I HAVE (and so have some other testers) been able to reproduce it on higher-end systems reliably on certain links from Google search results. My understanding is that developers had closed the bug as "fixed" for Vivaldi Stable, and now it's reopened and being looked at by a couple of devs. I tested a certain Google link on five systems here, and it generated the dead bird reliably on 3 of the 5.
The problem seems to be only happening on one of my machines and it's now 3 different forums on which this has occurred, and so far only on forums but NOT the Vivaldi forum!
The 3 forums so far are
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/categories/energy
https://forums.digitalspy.com/categories/freeview
https://ukfree.tv/transmitters/tv/Caradon_Hill/PGSTART500/#pagebarI'm going to take a wild guess that this may have something to do with video processing/card. As I'm not on the affected machine at present I'll try and post some detail about the video on the other machine later on.
Also a reminder that it's not happening in 3 other browsers as previously noted. -
@ChrisAO123 Thanks for the logs, have asked QA to decode them so that we can see what happened when they were created.
Re @Ayespy's cases there has been something in the tracker related to a similar issue that may have been fixed (but that was related to a very recent code-change, post 6.6), but two dead birds may not have died of the same cause, so I do not know if it is related to your problems
@ChrisAO123 said in What is this image?:
I'm going to take a wild guess that this may have something to do with video processing/card.
Would not be surprising, since problems in the GPU process is one of the things that can trigger a dead bird. Would be useful if you can provide information about it, and perhaps also check if updating the driver helps to mitigate the issue.