How will Vivaldi deal with Google's Manifest V3?
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But from what I understood, Adguard MV3 does offer this?
Did you see the images?
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Strange that Gorhill has not added these features in uBlock Lite yet.
Gorhill explained it well. He is not willing to maintain two UBOs simultaneously, because he uses Firefox and recommends it to get the most out of uBO.
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@barbudo2005 said in How will Vivaldi deal with Google's Manifest V3?:
Gorhill explained it well. He is not willing to maintain two UBOs simultaneously, because he uses Firefox and recommends it to get the most out of uBO.
Well, that's quite disappointing to hear. So uBlock Lite will remain this crappy on Chromium? I assume this AdGuard extension is free? Will check it out, but this is yet another reason for Vivaldi to beef up the built-in adblocker ASAP.
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@DoctorG said in How will Vivaldi deal with Google's Manifest V3?:
@RasheedHolland I had rebuild my broken 6.9 profile with a new one, and i never touched the OK again.
OK, so in other words, there is no way to make Vivaldi/Chromium show this info again?
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@RasheedHolland, also desirable an inbuild userscript manager, because there are many scripts that can replace some extensions that are removed from the Store and even functions that have never existed in the Store, because Google did not allow them in its rules.
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..also desirable an inbuild userscript manager..
Forget about it. There is no chance because Tampermonkey MV3 already exists and Violentmonkey will make it in the medium term:
"ntt77 commented last week
so, what is actually happening here?
will you develop a new version for MV3 or I need to switch to Tampermonkey?tophf commented last week
Nothing's happening yet, don't have much time. Eventually we'll migrate. I'm not particularly flustered because it's quite trivial to prolong ManifestV2 until the next summer via policy/registry."PS:
Coincidence: tophf is the main contributor of Stylus and Violentmonkey:
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@barbudo2005, less because script managers are v2 or v3, my fear is that Google has access to the installed scripts in a userscript manager extension from the store. Because of this I prefer to use the less extensions of this type from the store.
Before I used the scripts (YT Embed Redirect and WebEraser) in the LibertyBear extension and Google deleted these from the extension, because of this I use this scripts directly as extension for the moment, this way Google can't delete them, because they are locally in my HD in a protected folder.>Laptop Lenovo V145 15AST, AMD A9- 9425 Radeon R5 - 5 cores 3,1 GHz RAM 8GB, GPU 2+1 GB SSD 256GB -Win10 64 v22H2| Vivaldi last stable|
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my fear is that Google has access to the installed scripts in a userscript manager extension from the store.
The irrationality overcomes me.
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@DoctorG said in How will Vivaldi deal with Google's Manifest V3?:
I wait until June 2025 and then decide if Vivaldi is still usable for me.
Ditto. My reasoning is it allows the maximum time for seeing whether acceptable solutions emerge.
Also, right now I have a bunch of extensions that have been marked for deprecation. I will need to figure those out too, or maybe wait to see whether the authors will update them.
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@barbudo2005, at least I don't know other explanation that scripts are disappear from the USM I had. Irrational? I don't think so after this. Google has full control over the extension in the store and because of this I prefer not to use it for relevant extensions anymore.
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Ich bin ein großer Fan von Vivaldi. Nutze den Browser wirklich schon sehr lange und finde die Funktionsumpfang einfach der wahnsinn! Es gibt keinen Browser, der nur ansatzweise so viele tolle Funktionen hat.
Aber gibt es schon Pläne, wie Vivaldi mit Manifest V3 umgehen wird? Wird der Browser wegen der Chromium Engine gezwungen sein auf V3 zu wechseln oder gibt es hier einen Plan, Vivaldi V2 weiterhin nutzbar zu machen?
Ich bin ganz ehrlich: Sollte Manifest V3 sich fest etablieren, dann sage ich tschüss und muss leider wieder zu firefox wechseln, wie bestimmt tausende andere Menschen auch. Weil ich mir meine Zeit nicht von Werbung stehlen lassen möchte. -
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Hallo, bitte nur Englisch im internationalen Forum.There was a blog and a big tread about:
I use uBlock Origin Lite V3 since a while, not as powerful as uBlock V2 but all pages I use work fine.
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….is there a plan to continue making Vivaldi V2 usable?
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Because I don't want to let advertising steal my time.
A little modesty, respect for other users and inform yourself before saying stupid things.
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Nice to see in extensions manager that two of my ultra-important accessibility extensions work now with Mv3
Now i wait for Stylus.
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@DoctorG, as said
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Now i wait for Stylus.
I am also concerned about Stylus, because for me it is equally important as uBO.
"tophf" is the main contributor of Stylus and Violentmonkey, and said about the latter:
"ntt77 commented last week
so, what is actually happening here?
will you develop a new version for MV3 or I need to switch to Tampermonkey?tophf commented last week
Nothing's happening yet, don't have much time. Eventually we'll migrate. I'm not particularly flustered because it's quite trivial to prolong ManifestV2 until the next summer via policy/registry."Therefore, I am hopeful that everything will go well with Stylus and it is just a matter of waiting.
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And Vivaldi Blocker becoming better than uBlockLite until 7/2025.
You are defining the height of the Olympic high jump bar in the wrong way.
The comparison between the built-in adblocker will be against Adguard (MV3 Beta).
Look this post and following:
https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/79579/manifest-v3-webrequest-and-ad-blockers/193
Install it and give it a try to see what you think.
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Regarding the comparison between the built-in adblocker and Adguard:
Is "complicated" because the logical thing that the built-in could offer as more power against Adguard would be in principle not to have limitation of rules, but it is to some extent relative, because if you check the list of rules that comes included by default is very powerful and covers a wide spectrum.
PS: It remains to be seen what features the built-in adblocker can have that are not limited by MV3. One example could be manage YT.
In this sense, it would be interesting for people who have problems with YT and who do not manage to circumvent them with the built-in, to install it and check its efficiency.
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Comparison between uBO and what the built-in adblocker will look like in June 2025:
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@DoctorG said in How will Vivaldi deal with Google's Manifest V3?:
Only Alternative would be Mozilla
heehee, we
floorpers&zennerswelcome you with open arms...
