the website https://www.tinkercad.com is not usable

pitcat

Hi,
when i try to use the https://www.tinkercad.com witch create and modifie an 3d object vivaldi and vivaldi snapshot make CPU usage to 100% ands it's not usable for doing something.
Juste move the objet take a long time.
Work fine with firefox.
Debain 12 nvidia card kde wayland but with x11 same
Vivaldi :6.2.3105.38 (Version officielle) snapshot (64 bits)
Révision 5245bca0f884f2470f1125a1bee98921c7de62d5
Système d’exploitation Linux
JavaScript V8 11.6.189.19
Agent utilisateur Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/116.0.0.0 Safari/537.36
Ligne de commande /usr/bin/vivaldi-snapshot --flag-switches-begin --ozone-platform-hint=wayland --enable-features=Vulkan --flag-switches-end --ozone-platform=wayland --origin-trial-disabled-features=WebGPU --save-page-as-mhtml
Chemin d’accès à l’exécutable /opt/vivaldi-snapshot/vivaldi-snapshot
Chemin d’accès au profil /home/pitcat/.config/vivaldi-snapshot/Default
Type de valeur source des variantes Null

DoctorG

@pitcat 6.2.3105.38 For me with Hardware Acceleration (HWA) smooth moving/rotating racers in 3D view at https://www.tinkercad.com/things/0RENFyaKHK9-soapbox-racers
You need HWA by GPU.

Please tell "Graphics Feature Status" of vivaldi://gpu page.

pitcat

In vivaldi:flags i have enabled vulkan and wayland in Preferred Ozone platform.

Graphics Feature Status
Canvas: Software only, hardware acceleration unavailable
Canvas out-of-process rasterization: Disabled
Direct Rendering Display Compositor: Disabled
Compositing: Software only. Hardware acceleration disabled
Multiple Raster Threads: Enabled
OpenGL: Disabled
Rasterization: Software only. Hardware acceleration disabled
Raw Draw: Disabled
Skia Graphite: Disabled
Video Decode: Software only. Hardware acceleration disabled
Video Encode: Software only. Hardware acceleration disabled
Vulkan: Disabled
WebGL: Software only, hardware acceleration unavailable
WebGL2: Software only, hardware acceleration unavailable
WebGPU: Disabled
Problems Detected
WebGPU has been disabled via blocklist or the command line.
Disabled Features: webgpu
Accelerated video encode has been disabled, either via blocklist, about:flags or the command line.
Disabled Features: video_encode
Gpu compositing has been disabled, either via blocklist, about:flags or the command line. The browser will fall back to software compositing and hardware acceleration will be unavailable.
Disabled Features: gpu_compositing

DoctorG

@pitcat Hmm, Hardware Acceleration is off.

Can you please check Vivaldi Settings → Webpages, enable "Use of Hardware Acceleration" and restart?

pitcat

always enabled

DoctorG

@pitcat But vivaldi://gpu shows all is disabled.

What happens if you start without any settings and extensions with this command line in shell:
vivaldi-snapshot --user-data-dir="/tmp/VIVTEST123" &

What is shown for vivaldi://gpu after you startet Vivaldi with this command?

pitcat

CMD line in terminal ```
vivaldi-snapshot --user-data-dir="/tmp/VIVTEST123" &
[1] 29999
pitcat@pitcat:~$ [29999:29999:0829/190115.498379:ERROR:chrome_browser_cloud_management_controller.cc(163)] Cloud management controller initialization aborted as CBCM is not enabled.
[29999:29999:0829/190115.662674:ERROR:object_proxy.cc(590)] Failed to call method: org.freedesktop.portal.Settings.Read: object_path= /org/freedesktop/portal/desktop: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.portal.Desktop was not provided by any .service files
[30041:30041:0829/190115.835135:ERROR:viz_main_impl.cc(186)] Exiting GPU process due to errors during initialization
Fontconfig error: Cannot load default config file: No such file: (null)
[30064:8:0829/190116.148491:ERROR:command_buffer_proxy_impl.cc(128)] ContextResult::kTransientFailure: Failed to send GpuControl.CreateCommandBuffer.
[30085:7:0829/190116.166281:ERROR:command_buffer_proxy_impl.cc(128)] ContextResult::kTransientFailure: Failed to send GpuControl.CreateCommandBuffer.
[29999:29999:0829/190119.027168:ERROR:CONSOLE(0)] "Unchecked runtime.lastError: no reply", source: chrome-extension://mpognobbkildjkofajifpdfhcoklimli/main.html (0)
[29999:29999:0829/190134.430953:ERROR:CONSOLE(0)] "Unchecked runtime.lastError: Cannot access contents of url "chrome://gpu/". Extension manifest must request permission to access this host.", source: chrome-extension://mpognobbkildjkofajifpdfhcoklimli/window.html (0)
Warning: DiscoverDefaultPhysicalDevices is deprecated. Call EnumerateAdapters or RequestAdapter instead.
Warning: eglChooseConfig returned zero configs
at Create (../../chromium/third_party/dawn/src/dawn/native/opengl/ContextEGL.cpp:53)

raphics Feature Status
Canvas: Software only, hardware acceleration unavailable
Canvas out-of-process rasterization: Disabled
Direct Rendering Display Compositor: Disabled
Compositing: Software only. Hardware acceleration disabled
Multiple Raster Threads: Enabled
OpenGL: Disabled
Rasterization: Software only. Hardware acceleration disabled
Raw Draw: Disabled
Skia Graphite: Disabled
Video Decode: Software only. Hardware acceleration disabled
Video Encode: Software only. Hardware acceleration disabled
Vulkan: Disabled
WebGL: Software only, hardware acceleration unavailable
WebGL2: Software only, hardware acceleration unavailable
WebGPU: Disabled
Problems Detected
WebGPU has been disabled via blocklist or the command line.
Disabled Features: webgpu
Accelerated video encode has been disabled, either via blocklist, about:flags or the command line.
Disabled Features: video_encode
Gpu compositing has been disabled, either via blocklist, about:flags or the command line. The browser will fall back to software compositing and hardware acceleration will be unavailable.
Disabled Features: gpu_compositing

npro

@pitcat looks like your GPU is blacklisted in both OpenGL and Vulkan because it is too old, I'd say your only chance is to test it with the --ignore-gpu-blocklist parameter on X11/Wayland /w w/o Vulkan, where it could be working but you would have to live with some bugs.

pitcat

npro with your paramettre :

Graphics Feature Status
Canvas: Hardware accelerated
Canvas out-of-process rasterization: Disabled
Direct Rendering Display Compositor: Disabled
Compositing: Software only. Hardware acceleration disabled
Multiple Raster Threads: Enabled
OpenGL: Enabled
Rasterization: Hardware accelerated
Raw Draw: Disabled
Skia Graphite: Disabled
Video Decode: Hardware accelerated
Video Encode: Software only. Hardware acceleration disabled
Vulkan: Enabled
WebGL: Hardware accelerated but at reduced performance
WebGL2: Hardware accelerated but at reduced performance
WebGPU: Disabled

But now on tinkercat blanck page and quicly view you need webgl !!!!!!

npro

Tried out all the combos with or without Vulkan AND/OR Wayland? Also fyi Wayland is not officially supported.

pitcat

disable flags for waylan et vulkan reboot on X11 cession ands same pb.
it's a little better less slowly but always 100% cpu

Start from terminal
[3401:3401:0829/222724.268155:ERROR:viz_main_impl.cc(186)] Exiting GPU process due to errors during initialization
[3470:3470:0829/222724.947867:ERROR:viz_main_impl.cc(186)] Exiting GPU process due to errors during initialization
[3429:8:0829/222725.201726:ERROR:command_buffer_proxy_impl.cc(128)] ContextResult::kTransientFailure: Failed to send GpuControl.CreateCommandBuffer.
[3461:7:0829/222725.205303:ERROR:command_buffer_proxy_impl.cc(128)] ContextResult::kTransientFailure: Failed to send GpuControl.CreateCommandBuffer.

npro

@pitcat said in the website https://www.tinkercad.com is not usable:

Exiting GPU process due to errors during initialization

You 'd still need the --ignore-gpu-blocklist parameter, I was talking about different combos on top of it.

pitcat

so vith this cmd line work fine on kde wayland:

vivaldi-stable --ignore-gpu-blocklist --user-data-dir&#x3D;&quot;/tmp/VIVTEST123&quot; &amp;

For this cmd line not work with blank page

vivaldi-stable --flag-switches-begin --ozone-platform-hint=wayland --enable-features=Vulkan --flag-switches-end --ignore-gpu-blocklist --user-data-dir="/tmp/VIVTEST123" &

641:7641:0830/091621.784961:ERROR:shared_image_stub.cc(541)] SharedImageStub: unable to create context
[7641:7641:0830/091621.785262:ERROR:gpu_channel.cc(609)] GpuChannel: Failed to create SharedImageStub
[7641:7641:0830/091621.892753:ERROR:shared_context_state.cc(363)] OOP raster support disabled: GrContext creation failed.
[7641:7641:0830/091621.892903:ERROR:gpu_channel_manager.cc(1003)] ContextResult::kFatalFailure: Failed to initialize Skia for SharedContextState

same thing without vulkan :

vivaldi-stable --flag-switches-begin --ozone-platform-hint=wayland --flag-switches-end --ignore-gpu-blocklist --user-data-dir="/tmp/VIVTEST123"

[7967:7967:0830/092045.649010:ERROR:shared_image_stub.cc(541)] SharedImageStub: unable to create context
[7967:7967:0830/092045.649214:ERROR:gpu_channel.cc(609)] GpuChannel: Failed to create SharedImageStub
[7967:7967:0830/092045.651833:ERROR:shared_context_state.cc(363)] OOP raster support disabled: GrContext creation failed.
[7967:7967:0830/092045.652010:ERROR:gpu_channel_manager.cc(1003)] ContextResult::kFatalFailure: Failed to initialize Skia for SharedContextState

I'll trying under KDE with X11

pitcat

Sorry for flood but same thinks under x11.
Works vith --ignore-gpu-blocklist only.
Why my NVIDIA Corporation GK208B [GeForce GT 710] gpu are in the blocklist ?

DoctorG

My PCs with NVidia GT 710 or Intel HD 630 had no issues on Debian 12 KDE Wayland.
Vivaldi and some graphic drivers work with Wayland, some not. That's what i encountered over the months of internal testing.

npro

@pitcat do you use nvidia's proprietary driver? What version you have? Last supported one should be 470.xx.

pitcat

DoctorG wayland not the problem at this moment because on X11 same things, because firefox works fine on kde wayland.
i use wayland since two month and i haved this problem before
Since 3 month i use a new basic vidéo card GT 710 before it's was a GT 216
I can't exactly says when i haved the problem but it's certainly at the period who i haved change the card
My problem is the blocklist
npro is use nouveau
Linux pitcat 6.1.0-11-rt-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_RT Debian 6.1.38-4 (2023-08-08) x86_64 GNU/Linux
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau 1:1.0.17-2

npro

@pitcat said in the website https://www.tinkercad.com is not usable:

I use nouveau

that's your problem right there, follow Debian's instructions and use the proprietary driver (470.xx) instead.

pitcat

npro the pb it's that vivaldi don't want my card because firefox works not nouveau or driver fail

DoctorG on this link yo say work fine for you ?
https://www.tinkercad.com/things/0RENFyaKHK9-soapbox-racers

For me betwin 85% and 100% cpu slow rotation
missing something in my installation ?
Net install vith not full install from task

pitcat

Reportbug done VB-99595
they reproduce the bug