are you using any AI in your browser?

lukaskarabec

Hi, are you using any AI in your browser? Chatpgt, bing, bard or something similar? Alternatively, which one seems best to you and how does it help you?

DoctorG

@lukaskarabec No. Why? AI is not reliable for results.

lukaskarabec

I ask because many colleagues use AI to create scripts and find answers. I myself have not yet found a complete use for it. So I'm interested in the experience of others.

DoctorG

@lukaskarabec said in are you using any AI in your browser?:

many colleagues use AI to create scripts

You mean, they let a AI write bad and unsafe programs, test cases or shell scripts? I do not know if i should laugh loud or scream.

lukaskarabec

Of course, whether it is safe or not is also a matter of common sense. if I take something, copy it and run - I don't know what, then that's a security problem in itself.

DoctorG

@lukaskarabec If users not able to check what a AI created, they cause high risks.

And copy, paste and run? Who in IT and Programming do such stupid things?
Why should a person let AI create a program snippet/module? What is your opinion?

lukaskarabec

@lukaskarabec If we are talking about a real example, when you come to a person who does not know how to use powershell and wants to have the log loaded continuously, here is a simple solution for him, which he will get in a moment without having to know anything about powershell.

If we are talking at the level of Windows servers, here it is necessary for the person to think about it himself, regardless of the fact that many examples need to be modified according to their real needs.

blind copying is of course harmful in this case

LocutusOfBorg

NOPE

Catweazle

@lukaskarabec, Andisearch, which I use as main search engine. A very nice and private search assistant with relevant results with sources and usefull features. I think one the most intelligent use of AI out there.

https://andisearch.com

To use it in your search engine list:

https://andisearch.com/?query=%s

lukaskarabec

@Catweazle that sounds interesting, i'll try it. Thank you

ybjrepnfr

@lukaskarabec said in are you using any AI in your browser?:

are you using any AI in your browser?

i'd really really like to answer you, but the bot has captured my pet cockatoo & threatened to incinerate her if i give up any of their skynet secrets.

lukaskarabec

@ybjrepnfr

wintercoast

@lukaskarabec said in are you using any AI in your browser?:

Hi, are you using any AI in your browser? Chatpgt, bing, bard or something similar? Alternatively, which one seems best to you and how does it help you?

Yes. I currently have these set up in my sidebar.

I mostly use Bing, ChatGPT, Perplexity and Phind. Sometimes Bard and Claude.

I find them useful for software and technical learning tasks. But it helps to have some prior knowledge ex ante. I find that even when they get their answers wrong I can still end up learning from them.

Usually I use more than one at a time to cross-check. Even when several get the right answers, one or other might answer in a nicer or more complete way.

No one is best for all prompts. It's another reason to try more than one.

Coach8264

This thread id old but will give my 2 cents worth anyway.

I use the chat bots to do the exclusionary searches that became too difficult when bing and google dropped advanced search syntax in favor of exclusively supporting "natural language" searches.

I used to make heavy use of advanced search syntax when using bing and google. It was a very nice way to get the exact results I wanted and I became quite good at it.

To use an example from their own forums—

+crowns -dental

—would return results including the word crowns and excluding any results that included dental.

It was very frustrating when they both dropped support for it to exclusively pursue "natural language" searches that only returned the results they though I should want instead of the ones I asked for. So called "natural language" queries don't seem to care what I don't want to know about.

The appearance of the chat bots (Chat-GPT, Bard, etc.) has returned some of that ability to perform exclusionary searches. While I do not expect it to last (because I don't think it fits with their ad model) the chat bots do seem to understand what I do not want to know about when I take the time to write a query they understand. A query like—

Show me information about crowns excluding all results that include the word dental

—might be a bit more cumbersome to write but it does give me exactly the results I asked for, nicely summarized with links to referenced sources I can use for more information — all without any of the information I wanted excluded.

Unfortunately, there is a huge downside. All of the chat bots tend to use such matter of fact language in their summaries that most people will assume what they say must be true — whether or not it actually is. The bad news is that while the chat bots seem to be able to find information they also seem to lack the ability to determine if that information is accurate — and whether my mistake, laziness, or design, there is a lot of bad information out there.

While I will use the chat bots for the types of exclusionary searches I would have used advanced syntax for in the past I do not use them for much else, nor am I likely to any time in the near future. I like being able to write my own code and draft my own letters and other documents. I am too afraid I would lose those skills if I started relying on a chat bot to do those things for me.

Streptococcus

I use Phind occasionally. It works only with Safari, but I have gotten good results from it.

Catweazle

@Streptococcus, Phind also works in Vivaldi, used in the search engine list or in the Web Panel, alternatively you can use also Perplexity.ai in the similar way (search engine or web panel).

00sapo

Search engines and ChatGPT-like stuffs are different IMHO. I use Perplexity and You.com for researching complex topics. But I use duckduckgo and startpage way more times per day. Phind.com is nice, but having OpenAI GPT models and GitHub Copilot integrated in Neovim is much superior

Zalex108

@lukaskarabec said in are you using any AI in your browser?:

I ask because many colleagues use AI to create scripts and find answers. I myself have not yet found a complete use for it. So I'm interested in the experience of others.

Hi,
Recently a coworker mentioned that, uses GPT4 to help him creating "amateur" UserScripts to apply on TamperMonkey

Actually works,
I use his .user.js too

It seems to help but as mentioned above, you have to have some background or spend longer time.

DoctorG

As a test i tried to use ChatGPT and others for programming questions. Unfortunately suggested Python or Ruby or Perl modules never existed in WWW, and the more i tried to ask caused more hallucinated answers by AI.

Catweazle

@DoctorG, https://www.programming-helper.com ?