That Friday feeling – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3009.3

hlehyaric

@ybjrepnfr I sometimes wonder if Vivaldi Technologies AS is affiliated in anyway to Sirius Cybernetics Corp.

ybjrepnfr

@hlehyaric i shall completely avoid responding with

share & enjoy
share & enjoy

coz that would be totally predictable & hence shamefully passé.

DoctorG

@Ruarí In my case it did not and i installed manually by downloaded installer.

DriverOp

[Crash] After closing a developer tools window (VB-96952)
Thank you!

Ruarí

@DoctorG Did you not try manually triggering for updates first? That would have still got you the delta and would be faster. Also tests the non schduling part of the update mechanism

DoctorG

@Ruarí said in That Friday feeling – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3009.3:

Did you not try manually triggering for updates first?

No, because in the past autoupdate worked.
Could been a broken install on my side? Who knows.
I uninstalled Vivaldi Snapshot, cleared my profile and will now watch if autoupdates will wok in future.

No problem for me. I only asked for the case if update servers had overload and did not respond over horus.

Camis

@Gregor Agree

nutcracker

The tagging (& filtering) of the e-mail client is consistently inconsistent. I cannot make all the filters and the related tags to work. No matter what I do (by setting the OR rules) there are sites that just refuse to be filtered and tagged. That happens to 15% of my mails and, although not critical, is a pain in the ass.

ybjrepnfr

this is new misbehaviour to me, but might be an older problem i've not noticed before coz i rarely do the following.

i have two tabs which are stacked & then vertically tiled, & which arrangement for the past several days i have been preserving deliberately across numerous v relaunches, ie, unlike many other tabs, as a temporary arrangement, i need these two tabs to persist, & stay stacked + tiled.

what i've noticed though is that after v restarts, this stack changes to horizontal tiling, so that each time i need to then revert to vertical. it's a tiny little nuisance, hardly anything, but i've not noticed such misbehaviour before.

Pesala

@ybjrepnfr said in That Friday feeling – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3009.3:

after v restarts, this stack changes to horizontal tiling,

Unable to reproduce here.

helsten2

@ybjrepnfr: Confirmed. I have two stacked and tiled tabs. One has 2 pages vertically tiled, the other has 4 pages tiled to grid. When I restart these two tabs display all six pages vertically tiled. The indicators on the tabs show them as 2 and 4 pages - and the window view from the side panel also shows 2+4 pages.
I have seen this error in previous snapshots, as well.
Win10x64

DoctorG

@helsten2 I think tiling settings not remembered is a know issue, i saw a related bug report.

Popanz

I have a very strange behaviour. With Mails since the last snashot.
When I open Vivaldi i can't see any folders and it is not possible to expand the Topics (lAlle Nachrichten, Mailinglisten...):

I have to go to

and change here something. After that all looks like expected and I can collaps and expand the Topics like usual.

Starting Vivaldi anew, most of the time brings back the broken view.

zikkeratak

can't change icons in workspaces.

Just changes to that workspace and i got a brief show of the icon panel.

DoctorG

@zikkeratak A known issue. Fixed in internal 3013.x, wait for next Snapshots to get it.

zikkeratak

@doctorg: my bad... didn't read that part

ybjrepnfr

just like all snappies before, 6.1.3009.3 continues the fine tradition of necro-fetching feeds like a proper b@stard. tis exasperating.

and again

and yet again

bleedin' 'eck!

LonM

@ybjrepnfr I've raised this issue as well. Supposedly it's working as intended because the developers imagine you would want all copies of an article if it were changed by the publisher. But mostly, editors of news sites and YouTube videos just change the titles to make them more or less clickable, which leads to this annoying outcome where you get loads of duplicates.

I do wish they would fix this, because even though silently dropping feeds probably isn't according to the official feeds spec, I have not experienced any other feed reader that behaves this way.

ybjrepnfr

@LonM thank you! fwiw, in that pic, the latest incarnation of that feed had indeed been tweaked by guardian australia [additional metadata added (& subject line edited), albeit the actual video itself was unchanged]. however, the second-latest version, ie, the initial necro-fetch, was identical in all respects. this is the scenario i encounter most commonly when vivaldi necro-fetches; no actual change. it really does give me the screaming heebie jeebies, coz each time it wastes minutes of my time, needing to compare & contrast, to make sure it's genuinely a clone that i can safely delete, or alternatively [but more rarely, for me] a genuinely altered version with which i need to engage.

in other respects i find much to commend about vivaldi's native feeds tool, but this incessant necro-fetching commonly tempts me to yet again re-enable the feedbro extension [or, indeed, reconsider possibly returning to... an "unnamed alternative browsing experience solution" ].

becm

@LonM sadly the spec technically does not really define that articles with the same guid have to be displayed uniquely, but definitely that they are the same article.

The procedure of republishing is often used for updating links or correcting content in Podcast-feeds, where this behavior is also annoying.

Notes to Devs
If it's only about "keeping the previous versions"; the UI definitely has support for threaded views.
Albeit simply adding a In-Reference-To behavior would still show updates in the wrong perceived priority, it should be an improvement to the current state nonetheless.