Solved Google's voice services (search, docs, translate) not working in Vivaldi

Eggcorn

@DoctorG Servers? Unless I'm mistaken: Speach-to-text existed before the Internet was mainstream. And I'd imagine there's already open-source speech-to-text code that Vivaldi can use.

Or would the quality just be too low, if the speech-to-text was performed on the computer running Vivaldi rather than on a remote server?

Pathduck

@Eggcorn Maybe you're thinking about text-to-speech, which is easy...

Speech-to-text is a whole other ballgame. Unless you're thinking about "Only plain US/Queen's English speakers, no dialects or accents please, talk slowly and clearly and don't swallow your vowels"

Or would the quality just be too low, if the speech-to-text was performed on the computer running Vivaldi rather than on a remote server?

That's a very specific technical question I doubt anyone here is qualified to answer, even the V team because they've probably not even started thinking about doing something like this...

Should the local installation contain all the necessary data to figure out what someone is saying... say, like a couple terabytes of voice samples - AND the processing power to search this data within a reasonable time to find a match?

Eggcorn

@Pathduck I think you just answered the question: Sounds like the quality would be too low to be worth the time and effort implementing this feature would take.

Fortunately, the Bing website itself still has voice-search. Perhaps that's enough to implement it into Vivaldi. Bing's already the default search-engine in Vivaldi. Maybe Microsoft would make voice-search available for free, so long it was used just for Bing searches.

DoctorG

@Eggcorn Bing? Windows?
I guess Vivaldi devs will not implement this as it would exist as a Windows-only "feature".
Excluding other OS is not the goal and not Vivaldi philosophy.

Eggcorn

@DoctorG Why would it be Windows-only, what does operating system have to do with this?

DoctorG

@Eggcorn There is no Bing voice service on Mac and Linux OS which can be used.

Eggcorn

@DoctorG Strange. Bing is a website, why would it care what operating system you were using (unless Microsoft's back to their old tricks, and is making Bing care to promote Windows)?

DoctorG

@Eggcorn Ah, ok, you talk about the Bing web page. That can work.

I though about using voice search on all browser by using OS interface.
My bad. Me programmer's strange thoughts

fashinobi

Hi
I can't use voice typing in google docs with Vivaldi 5.1.2567.66.
I tested my microphone in other website and that is OK. I tested Docs voice typing in Google Chrome and it is OK.
The problem is only in Vivaldi. The microphone take no action

Pesala

@fashinobi It is a feature that Vivaldi would have to pay for.

elalitte

Hi,
I tried to implement the chromium web speech API but it seems to work only on Chrome and not Vivaldi.
Vivaldi says "Network error" but the exact same page works on Chrome.
Doesn't Vivaldi embed web speech API ?
Thank you.
Eric.

DoctorG

@elalitte said in SpeechRecognition says "network error" in Vivaldi:

Doesn't Vivaldi embed web speech API ?

If that is a paid Google Service, no.

elalitte

I don't think so, I don't pay anything for chrome or safari (it works on safari either) thanks

bariton

@elalitte : Try your page on vivaldi/android, I think it will work. Its using the underlying google services there.
I had the same experience, my local page works on chrome/win, vivaldi/android, but on vivaldi/win tts works, but speech reco does not.

Its like @DoctorG said, vivaldi would have to pay google for using it in the browser on i.e. windows.

elalitte

thx @bariton, I understand better why it's not working.
Do you think it can be based on the user agent send to the server ? Thus I could change it to the same as on chrome and maybe make it work ?

LonM

Unfortunately services that require vivaldi to pay google won't be implemented, and speech recognition is one of them.

bariton

@elalitte : I don't think so, that hack would be too easy.

SkipTrace

Vivaldi Browser Fails to Translate Google by Voice - Is This the End of Multilingual Browsing?

See the video here, how it's failed to do it: https://youtu.be/hIleIyYtwSM

SilentWatcher

@SkipTrace The voice input function of Google Translate only works in Chrome.

Vivaldi already spoofs itself as Chrome, so doubt something as simple as a user agent or client hints switcher will work. Google probably uses some proprietary API that is only present in Chrome, so no other browser is able to use the site's voice input feature.

Good old consumer friendly Google not acting monopolistically at all...

https://support.google.com/translate/answer/6142468?hl=en&co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop#zippy=%2Cvoice-input-isnt-supported-on-this-browser:~:text=If you get an error message that says "Voice input isn’t supported on this browser%2C" try to use a different browser. Chrome is the only browser that’s fully supported.

DoctorG

@elalitte Google protects its services by a license key to unlock service for allowed customers.