Whatsapp web on web panel became extremely slow

[ingolftopf]

@JustABrowser58, @xmfreak, @VictorPenha
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Have fun with the browser and in the forum.

[ingolftopf]

So many problems with 'WhatsApp'.
Really so excited about it?
Ever looked at open source 'Jabber/XMPP' messenger?
Think much better and more secure.
It's available as a website, for Linux, Windows, Apple and Android.

[DoctorG]

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if you need status of a bug, ask me my chat or at What is the status of VB (=already reported bug/issue)?

[JustABrowser58]

@xmfreak I tested Telegram Web on a web panel vs on a tab and found that it is slightly faster in the latter, although the difference is much smaller than my experience with WhatsApp Web. So, there is a difference between using websites in a web panel vs a tab, but I guess the difference depends on how optimised the website is (something I can barely say for WhatsApp Web).

[mib2berlin]

@nellmf
Hi, the Vivaldi testers test on different systems with low up to high resources, some have very old equipment.
Vivaldi have problems with WhatsApp at moment, the developer are aware of the problem and will fix this.
The resources of Vivaldi and Edge are similar on my system for example:

Cheers, mib

[ingolftopf]

@nellmf said in Whatsapp web on web panel became extremely slow:

Vivaldi is simply frighteningly slow and in computers with few resources simply does not work, test and use Vivaldi with high performance video cards or a high midrange processor, is not a valid test, it is silly to test with hardware that you know you will not have problems, for a browser or application in general does not have these problems, simply should be tested in all lines, from the lowest to the highest resources, but it seems that the Vivaldi team has simply decided to develop for those users with high performance equipment.

Vivaldi runs wonderfully for me in a more than 20 (!) year old labtop with Linux.

The problem is once again with WhatsApp, as can be seen above.
Vivaldi now has to upgrade again because WhatsApp has changed something.

[Edmarcio]

Calling these that needs to use Whatsapp as minority is really weird imo... it is basically most used messenger in the world.

The question that should be made is why others browsers based in the same Chromium engine are working fine and Vivaldi not? Put the blame in the website when all others browsers didn't have any issue looks to me very selfish.

[DoctorG]

@Yukora Serveral threads on Whatsapp issue were merged into this thread.

[nellmf]

@ingolftopf Correct dear, to say that it is a minority is not knowing what a minority means, even sounds even derogatory comment, but nothing to do, the truth is that Vivaldi does a poor job with the side panel and its integrations, at this point Opera and although it hurts, is quite ahead, there are no problems with WhatsApp in Opera, if perhaps use different technologies or panel engine is different, but of the things that are failing this is one.

[barbudo2005]

I remind those who have problems with WA that there is WA Desktop, that it has no problem, and has the advantage that you can make voice or video calls.

[nellmf]

@ingolftopf Vivaldi is slow and consumes much more resources than any browser, compared to Edge, which at the moment precisely users and testers are complaining about the high consumption of the browser.
Now, I give you an example, comparing Vivaldi and Opera with only one tab open and being exactly the same, I show you the results, simply the resource management of Vivaldi is clumsy and consumes too many resources to keep a tab open. We are normalizing the fact that a browser with only run it and open a tab, you consume more than half a gigabyte, it's terrible, it should not be so, I remember when they ran the 300 or 400 MB, was good, but now exceeds Opera by almost 200 MB and Edge by a little more with the same tabs.

Not wanting to realize this, is to make us blind to the problem and sooner or later, it will take its toll because WE WILL NOT WANT SOMETHING SLOW.

I leave evidence.

[ingolftopf]

@Edmarcio said in Whatsapp web on web panel became extremely slow:

... it is basically most used messenger in the world.

Sadly

I hope that everyone here is aware that WhatsApp belongs to Facebook and that they are feeding 'Meta' with their data.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/WhatsApp

[ingolftopf]

@nellmf said in Whatsapp web on web panel became extremely slow:

Vivaldi is slow and consumes much more resources than any browser, compared to Edge

As I said, I cannot confirm this observation.

[Edmarcio]

@ingolftopf everybody probably knows that but has no issue with that at all.
I saw some others alternatives posted in this thread but what the point to use an alternative if you can't talk with your wife, children, familiars, friends, companies, etc?

I use whatsapp web because it is easier than use my cellphone all the time when I'm working... and I can freely talk or reply anytime to my wife, familiars, children, friends, etc.

If my wife wants something she ask via whatsapp because she knows in most times I'm in meetings and can't attend a cellphone call so the message I can easy reply to her even in a business meeting... same for my children, my mother, my father, or friends...

I left the work already knows if my friends are doing something so it very easy... or I just schedule a shopping or food delivery via whatsapp... it is that easy and simple because everybody uses it.

Now what the point of use a messenger that most don't uses or that are not integrated in cellphones? Unless it is a very specific group Telegram doesn't offer that too... you have to use whatsapp that is what most use.

Maybe I'm talking about the reality in Brazil... maybe in others countries Whatsapp is not that popular where everybody with a cellphone uses it including business locations.
Or maybe the world really uses whatsapp and doesn't care about Meta or Facebook political discussion.

Convenience is better than anything else because it makes your life easy and indirect improve it quality.

Edit - You will probably ask why I'm using Vivaldi if you don't care about data privacy? Well I like the features that don't existis in browsers like Chrome or Edge... I was an Opera user but was forced to find a new browser when they removed the Recent Closed Tabs from top right of the browser windows (it is really amazing useful) and so researching I found Vivaldi and after some test found out others nice features I liked (I like the options for tabs and the build-in adblock without need of extensions for example) and so I started to use Vivaldi in my devices including work... it helps in what I do.

[nellmf]

@Edmarcio Completely in agreement, dear.

The problem seems to some people, is that if they offer support to an application like WhatsApp or any other, if that functionality exists, why then they tell you to use Jabber for example, when you know perfectly well that almost nobody uses it. This is a productivity issue, the idea of using the side panel or WhatsApp inside the panel is because you don't have to fight through the tabs looking for it or looking for the Desktop application. So if the solution is not to use WhatsApp, because simply Vivaldi does not support it or does not interest them, then remove the support and that's it, WhatsApp is no longer used, let everyone decide whether or not to stay with Vivaldi, but to go out with a thought of using something else, which is not offered in the browser, lacks logical sense.

The problem is evident in Vivadi, whether they want to realize it or not, but sooner or later they will do it and leave those retrograde thoughts.
In this same thread there are several people reporting the issue, but there are a lot of others defending something a bit abstract, simple doesn't work, it works perfectly in Opera, yes, quite well. But we don't want to switch to Opera, but with this kind of thinking, unfortunately one already doubts it.

[princemike23]

@mercail said in Whatsapp web on web panel became extremely slow:

Greetings,

I'm looking for help resolving this very specific issue:
Suddenly Whatsapp's web version in desktop mode that I use for web panels became extremely slow and unresponsive, and I cannot find a reason to blame for it. Everything from the text cursor selecting the typing area to image pasting is taking upwards of 15 seconds on a decent desktop. I cannot observe this behavior on other web panels or even whatsapp web in a normal tab.

I already cleared my download queue which seemed to help with pasting images in the chat, but it's still very sluggish.
I've deleted and recreated the webpanel.
My vivaldi installation is up to date, but the issue did not come up immediately after an update.
Tried in a private window without extensions.

Thanks in advance

//MODEDIT: merged duplicated threads, bug reported as VB-91338

I have exactly the same issue.
Please solve asap!

Thanks

[garay92]

Well, I've just created a thread about this same problem.

The support just send me this thread link and for what I saw Vivaldi support doesn't really care if we can't use WhatsApp Web or not.

I still can't use it via new tab, but it worked properly via side menu bar and I can copy and paste images into chats without the fu***g dead bird icon.

[eylem]

I have the same problem in windows and linux. New clean profile doesn't fix it. I have some questions:
Why does it happen? Is it true that vivaldi team couldn't fix the problem? Why whatsappweb works in regular tabs but not in panel?

[Ayespy]

@eylem Panel is not a regular web page. It is, in part, a mobile emulator. That is, because the panel is narrow it frequently gets the mobile version of a page even though it's using desktop browser technology.

The devs know about the problem with WhatsApp and will be trying to fix it. Break-fixes are seldom fast and simple. They require diagnosis and re-writing of parts of the code. And the team is small.

Of course the problem is not something Vivaldi changed in panels. It is something Chromium and/or WhatsApp changed and now Vivaldi has to figure out what that was and how to remedy it. That will happen.

But the narrowness of the panel, some of its coding limitations, and website defaults for mobile versions of their pages introduce variables as to what needs fixed and how to fix it.

[eylem]

@Ayespy thank you for clear, full and quick answer