Whatsapp web on web panel became extremely slow

[DoctorG]

@Edmarcio said in Whatsapp web on web panel became extremely slow:

when you run the snapshot it automatically use the same profile

Windows? Then you installed the wrong way!
Stable: Install with Installer > Advanced for Current User, then the browser profile will be created in C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Local\Vivaldi
with Installer > Advanced install Snapshot als Standalone to a different folder f.ex. C:\Users\YOURNAME\AppData\Local\Vivaldi Snapshot\

[Edmarcio]

@DoctorG you don't need to install it to run the stable or snapshot.

[DoctorG]

@Edmarcio Really? Yes, you can extract the 7Zip file and copy where you want, but you need to have a file stp.viv in program folder to get a profile there. Content stp.viv:

// Vivaldi Standalone

If you run Stable and Snapshot on same profile, you get broken data, and i tell you, we helpers can not fix your strange issues then if you do this.

[Edmarcio]

@DoctorG let's clear somethings here.

I have installed Vivaldi stable: %USERFODLER%\AppData\Local\Vivaldi\Application

I run the Snapshot from any place... even a PenDrive.
It uses the same profile: %USERFOLDER%\AppData\Local\Vivaldi\User Data\Default

There is no .viv file in neither of these folders... it never had.

I never got any broken data btw... both works the same with exception of the bugs like the double title / windows buttons in snapshot right now.

[DoctorG]

@Edmarcio You can not run Vivaldi like this!
Yes, the both Vivaldi versions search a folder named %LOCALAPPDATA%\Vivaldi\ for profile storage.
I guess you never had not asked how to install a Snapshot and thought different Vivaldi versions will use different folder. But that is wrong assumption.

[DoctorG]

@Edmarcio said in Whatsapp web on web panel became extremely slow:

I never got any broken data btw.

I saw many questions from users who suffered from mixing profiles or downgrading. And i know users sent "bug reports" which got rejected as wrong installations are not a bug.

[DoctorG]

@Edmarcio said in Whatsapp web on web panel became extremely slow:

There is no .viv file in neither of these folders... it never had.

It is created when you install Vivaldi on pendrive as Standalone Install.

But i think now, that is not the way you want help.
Have a nice day. May others help you in a better way.

[Ayespy]

@Edmarcio said in Whatsapp web on web panel became extremely slow:

when you run the snapshot it automatically use the same profile..

Not here. I have never, ever seen that. Every single one of my Vivaldi instances has its own profile, and I have never had to make any changes to cause that. It's simply the way it works.

[Edmarcio]

@Ayespy download the snapshot, extract it and run the Vivaldi... it will use the same Default profile of your Stable installation.
That is how it happens on Windows.

[Ayespy]

@Edmarcio Only if you select the same folder your existing instance is already in. You are not supposed to do that. You are supposed to name or select a new destination folder.

[Edmarcio]

@Ayespy It doesn't ask anything or need to select anything... it automatically use the same profile (the previous Snapshot did the same).
I know you can use a command line to change the profile folder it will use but that is outside the point (after all I have no issue with it using the same profile... I download a new snapshot and just unpack it and test it using the same profile... no need extra steps... it is all automatic already running with all the setthings you did with Stable... after test I just delete the Snapshot folderfrom the downloads folder).

PS. If you are really curious about that... if you are running the Stable Vivalvi and you try to open the Snapshot Vivaldi it will just open the Stable Vivaldi you are running (I mean bring it to foreground)... you need to close the Stable Vivaldi and so open the Snapshot Vivaldi to really run the new executable... btw if you have the option to back with the last opened tabs open the Snapshot Vivaldi will open them just fine (after all it is using the same profile).

[Ayespy]

@Edmarcio When you go to install a standalone, it ALWAYS offers the path of where to put it.

Do you see the editable field to the left of the "Browse..." button? That's where you tell it where to put the standalone version.

[Edmarcio]

@Ayespy I think you are not understanding.
Download the snapshot, extract it and run the Vivaldi.

I do not use the installer to test snapshots that I will delete in few minutes later.

Edit - I think I now get the confusion to you "extract it" means use the installer... I could have been more accurate sorry... I download it and extract it to a folder without touch the installer... the folder after extract it is "Vivaldi-bin" with the full structure of an installation.... you can do that with most Apps that uses that type of installer script (like Notepad++, Opera, etc).

[Ayespy]

@Edmarcio If you install snapshot on top of stable, or stable on top of snapshot, yes, it replaces the prior version. But in so doing, it also modifies the profile to be compatible with the version you are installing FOR THE MOST PART.

But when you are switching back and forth between Stable and Snapshot at the same location, the "updating" of the profile folder may not work both directions - especially when installing an earlier version number on top of a later version number.

And if you use an instance that has not used the installer, and so it is accessing the profile folder for another version in the "default" location, you may very well run into incompatibilities.

[Edmarcio]

@Ayespy yeap I understand that... that is why I said it can corrupt the profile before.

Anyway I'm not installing it I explained better in the previous post "edit"... I'm just extracting and testing it... that works for me because I can see if the issues I'm looking where fixed or not before delete the snapshot.

[DoctorG]

@Ayespy The user did not understand that after extracting installer and 7Zip file he needed to run as Standalone to protect the Vivaldi standard profile, that means add a stp.viv file as i mentioned in https://forum.vivaldi.net/post/611682.

May be my english was too bad, i do not know.

[Edmarcio]

@DoctorG I understand that but that file is not auto generated... the Vivaldi Snapshot automatically use the same profile as Vivaldi Stable... maybe you are not understanding what I'm saying... and you guys started to say it doesn't work like that.

I didn't change the app behavior... I'm using it like it is without make any change... I was just explaining how the App works.

I have zero issue with using the same profile in fact I prefer like that because I will delete the Snapshot after test it and that saves me the step to look for the Snapshot profile folder to delete it.

[DoctorG]

@Edmarcio Nobody told you to extract the installer file and then expect it works.
Where did you learn that extraction of installer and starting works for Vivaldi?

Install as Standalone on the pendrive and Snapshot will never crack any browser profile data.

[Edmarcio]

@DoctorG I leaned doing it myself? I mean I don't like installers at all... I prefer to work the way I always do... extract the installer and run the app.

That is what I do with all nightly, snapshot, beta, alpha, etc builds... most release a simple .zip file to be extracted btw... the installer while being an executable is just a zip file too... you can open in any zip app like 7-zip.

I'm not saying you need to do how I do... I'm just explaining how I do because you asked

About the test I can use a new profile via command line so it is not a issue if the default profile is really affecting my tests... I said that I rerun my tests before with a new profile and nothing changed from what I reported... the new snapshot is slower than 5.4 and previous snapshot... there are a lot of windows native (where it runs faster) bugs too that I reported in the others thread (duplicated title bar, duplicated min, max, close buttons, etc).

Something I did not say... I use it in the notebook with Intel IPG so I have to disable the "hardware acceleration" because that option makes the UI lagging... I don't have a dedicated GPU to test when the "hardware acceleration" should make things better.

[ashwin240999]

latest update made it even slower ;_;