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      ludwigvonmises
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      Hello,

      I've just started using Vivaldi and it's great. One thing I've noticed is that (if I am not mistaken) it doesn't allow saving password for sites with self-signed or otherwise unverifiable certificate. Is there a way to force saving password for those sites?

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        DoctorG Soprano @ludwigvonmises
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        Saving password on insecure site

        You can not do this. As i remember that was a security restriction not to save passwords sent over non-SSL connections.

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          ludwigvonmises @DoctorG
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          @DoctorG This is the one thing I miss from Firefox. I see no reason not to allow saving passwords on private IP ranges and .local TLDs. I guess I'll put in a feature request.

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            Pathduck Moderator Soprano Supporters @ludwigvonmises
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            @ludwigvonmises I have a router running at:
            https://router.asus.com:8443
            with a self-signed certificate, and Vivaldi prompt me for saving passwords.

            I also run a local Nginx with some basic test pages, and Vivaldi prompts me for saving at both:
            http://127.0.0.1/
            http://localhost/

            There is also a flag:
            vivaldi://flags/#unsafely-treat-insecure-origin-as-secure
            I have not set it though and not sure if it works.

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              ludwigvonmises @Pathduck
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              @Pathduck Hm, I might have some other problem then. I've tried the flag you mention, didn't help. Thanks for the info.

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                Pathduck Moderator Soprano Supporters @ludwigvonmises
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                @ludwigvonmises

                There's another flag as well:
                chrome://flags/#add-passwords-in-settings
                This will allow you to manually add credentials in the Chromium settings page chrome://settings/passwords

                But it's very finnicky about what URLs it accepts, it won't do just http://localhost , you'll need to add a full URL. But it does accept http://127.0.01 though for some reason.

                I guess these flags are for local development use, they are not meant for corporate networks where there's often completely different ways for users to authenticate (Kerberos, NTLM++)

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                  DoctorG Soprano @Pathduck
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                  @Pathduck Oh, yes, i used it 1-2 years ago, but forgot about it.

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                    ludwigvonmises
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                    It works for http sites, but for https I have to import CA certificate into the browser. Otherwise, it just won't work, even if saved password exists. A tedious step which is not necessary on Firefox. Hopefully this will improve in some future version.

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                      DoctorG Soprano @ludwigvonmises
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                      @ludwigvonmises said in Saving password on insecure site:

                      Hopefully this will improve in some future version.

                      Planned.

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                        ludwigvonmises @DoctorG
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                        @DoctorG That's great. So far, this is the only complaint I have against this near-perfect browser.

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                          Eggcorn @ludwigvonmises
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                          @ludwigvonmises I'd suggest password management software such as 1Password, in any case. But yes, it's a problem if the Vivaldi password filler doesn't work on intranet (as opposed to internet) sites.

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                            DoctorG Soprano
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                            I use KeepassXC or Keepass2 as external password management to get rid of such problems.

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                              patrickweiden @DoctorG
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                              @DoctorG said in Saving password on insecure site:

                              @ludwigvonmises said in Saving password on insecure site:

                              Hopefully this will improve in some future version.

                              Planned.

                              @DoctorG: What does your "Planned" mean here? Can you say what exactly will be the improvement / what the plan is? (If Vivaldi was able to allow users to save passwords for insecure sites / on a user-question basis, so would be soooooo great!)

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