Running mail filters -- non stop (bug?)
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I have been watching vivaldi mail running mail filters for the past 10 minutes. Installed new version of windows (frequently problem when system is waiting to install update) to clear that potential problem. No change -- vivaldi continues to run mail filters. This is not new; has happened before but I cannot point to specific steps or circumstances
Thoughts, suggestions?
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@janrif On my five accounts with half a million mails, this does not happen. I ran into it months ago, but a complete refresh of my accounts seemed to solve it. Have no idea what caused it. I'm not sure what the best advice is.
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@ayespy said in Running mail filters -- non stop (bug?):
@janrif On my five accounts with half a million mails, this does not happen. I ran into it months ago, but a complete refresh of my accounts seemed to solve it. Have no idea what caused it. I'm not sure what the best advice is.
Thanks, @Ayespy. Exactly how did you go about refreshing your accounts?
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@janrif Well, they are MAPI, so I didn't lose any mail.
What I did was delete each account in the mail settings manager, turn off the email function, delete every mail-related file and folder in the browser and start over as though I had never had an account. It took about two days for the accounts to rebuild a couple of decades of local mail storage.
There's a less-destructive technique you could try first, that merely removes all the indexes and filters and lets them rebuild.
And there's one even less destructive than that, wherein you click on the mail envelope icon in the status bar, select the gear at the far right of the resulting pop-up window, then select "rebuild search database" from that. That might help something.
I have done each of these at one time or another.
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@janrif To re-index all your mail, (the second most-destructive solution) you close the browser and delete the folder:
C:\Users\yourusername\AppData\Local\Vivaldi\User Data\Default\Storage\ext\mpognobbkildjkofajifpdfhcoklimli
and restart the browser. Depending on how many emails you have on disk, the re-index will take a few minutes to several hours. But at the end your mail indexes will be clean and flawless.
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Sadly, this didn't help for me.
As soon as I connect my Microsoft Live email trough IMAP I get constant "Running Mail Filter..." message.
I tried the nuclear method with wiping everything mail related and reconnecting. Gladly I only have arround 30k mails to index.I came across this issue when noticing my system running harder then usual. Tracking down the issue to be the Vivaldi mail client. As soon as I deactivate the "Mail, Calendar" feature, Vivaldi stops consuming too much CPU time.
I get following errormessages in Mail:
14:19:22.153 info [Mail - filter, store] initListEntries took 0ms.
14:19:22.180 info [Mail - filter, store] initListEntries took 0ms.On Windows 10 Pro, with Vivaldi 5.1.2567.39 (Stable channel) (32-bit)
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@lomsor said in Running mail filters -- non stop (bug?):
As soon as I connect my Microsoft Live email trough IMAP I get constant "Running Mail Filter..." message
I'm starting to see that myself. It's new for me but I can't point to a particular time or update when it began. All I can say w some certainty is that it hasn't always been this way.
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Interesting that there is a Microsoft Live mail commonality here. I wonder if that server is sending continual push messages or something, even when there is no mail to update, or generating some other activity that M3 could be designed to ignore except on a "check every 15 minutes" basis or something.
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@ayespy said in Running mail filters -- non stop (bug?):
Interesting that there is a Microsoft Live mail commonality here.
Sorry to burst your bubble. I don't use Microsoft Live email.
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@janrif Oh, well.
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@ayespy said in Running mail filters -- non stop (bug?):
@janrif Oh, well.
Does this qualify for a bug report?
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@janrif I would say so, yes.
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After upgrading to Vivaldi 5.1 I started to have the same issue.
And I do not have any mail server configured (I played a bit with M3 in the past, but decided not to use it yet as it lack some features that I use in M2 so i deleted everything).
Disabled Mail in settings, restarted browser and the message gone.P.S. I closed browser, deleted the 'ext' folder mentioned above, started browser, re-enabled Main in settings and looks like this fixed the issue. Thanks.
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I must have overlooked that mention by @Ayespy . Something I did resulted in a reindexing but I didn't specifically delete that folder before.
@ayespy said in Running mail filters -- non stop (bug?):
C:\Users\yourusername\AppData\Local\Vivaldi\User Data\Default\Storage\ext\mpognobbkildjkofajifpdfhcoklimli
and restart the browser. Depending on how many emails you have on disk, the re-index will take a few minutes to several hours. But at the end your mail indexes will be clean and flawless.After doing the same @fifonik did in his P.S this fixed my issue too. It also fixed the issue with using CPU resources as well as inconsistencies with mail filters.
Maybe it has to do with something else in that folder? Not really the indexing files? I noticed that there were some really old files in there. I generated a list in case that's helpful:
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Heh - ironic that this thread has appeared since I replied in another thread about the exact same issue a couple of days ago...
In my case, the help suggests re-indexing will lose my downloaded POP mail, so (as we still don't have proper mailbox import/export) I have no choice but to leave it.
It's only a test snapshot (I still keep Opera 12 alive for mail archiving) but I don't fancy importing tens of thousands of mails just yet... I'll leave it "running mail filters" at 30% CPU for now.
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@mossman I'm somehow in the same boat, but I simply could not leave it running and will simply have to re-import my mails at some point. Sadly, Feeds are also lost and stop running when deleting the folder, but I can re-add these the next days.
I believe that I had reported the issue before, but I've again done so today, because this somehow feels rather urgent. Indexing should just be aborted when the session is finished, or there has to be some flag that prevents it from running as long as this issue exists...VB-86996 (Mail filters running indefinitely)
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@jumpsq more user control of indexing (i.e. a couple of UI options instead of just deleting the whole thing) and import/export would solve this type of dilemma...
I really hope these are coming.
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The good thing is that replacing
Default/Storage/ext/mpognobbkildjkofajifpdfhcoklimli
with a backup also seems to resolve the issue completely. I was worried that other stuff would break if I tried this. -
@jumpsq Good to know. I might try reverting the "mpognobbkildjkofajifpdfhcoklimli" and "Mail" folders to match the monthly back-up in that case. I don't think any newer mail has been deleted from the servers, so it should go ahead and POP it all in again.
The snapshot version has definitely changed in the meantime so it will be interesting to see if that causes any issues. (And if it does then I can either bulk-import from Opera again or restore the entire snapshot and its user profiles from the backup.)
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@mossman so I restored the mail database and storage from backup... and it worked fine, but is still stuck on 30% CPU "running mail filters" afterwards.
I noticed a handful of old (previously deleted) podcasts were downloaded in the newsfeeds as well, so I suspect the database was already corrupt. Maybe it only manifested as this filtering loop when triggered by myself manually or when updating the database. I saw it say it was upgrading to v167 when I started up following the file restoration.
Getting strong Opera vibes circa v10 when database corruption was an occasional issue for me as well - but at least that would not "lose" POP mail; it would re-build the database from the messages found on the disk.