six × nine = ?

[ybjrepnfr]

@npro yeah, too right!

once, one of us.
now, one of them.
euw, i feel dirty just thinking about it.

[npro]

@ybjrepnfr someone is an early bird or watching too much Monty Python

[ybjrepnfr]

@npro yeah, the former. for who knows what reason, woke up at 05:55 this morn.

there will be, as a result...

coffeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

[TbGbe]

@npro I'm waiting to see the "new" Pop_OS

[ybjrepnfr]

@TbGbe yeah well, ya coulda waited in a penguin waiting room, ya didn't need to go all windozie for goodness sake

[TbGbe]

@ybjrepnfr Well, I had to buy a new PC - so Win is/was mandatory!

[ybjrepnfr]

@TbGbe see, your strikethrough proves you didn't even fool yourself, let alone us.

while you're awaiting pop, why not run, say mint LMDE 6, based on the latest debian stable? i realise you're a bit conservative re OS's, so i'm not trying to be silly & push you to say Arch [after all, we're still waiting for @hlehyaric to get aboard that promised bus ], but by all reports LMDE6 is pretty decent & stolid.

[TbGbe]

@ybjrepnfr You can't bash on Win 11 unless you've tried it for a while!!

[ybjrepnfr]

@TbGbe here's that same logic:

• ya can't criticise eating dog shyte, til ya've tried it
• ya can't criticise stabbing yaself in the eye, til ya've tried it
• ya can't criticise forgoing today's oxygen allotment, til ya've tried it

[npro]

@ybjrepnfr said in six × nine = ?:

we're still waiting for @hlehyaric to get aboard that promised bus

don't count on @hlehyaric, while a certain someone was absent , he expressed interest in Pantheon, his exact quote was: "it is indeed miles better than macOS!"

[TbGbe]

@ybjrepnfr I prefer

• ya can't criticise a film until you've seen it
• ya can't criticise a book until you've read it
• ya can't criticise a song until you've heard it

[ybjrepnfr]

@npro oh noes, not pantheon, noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

tis very pretty, yes, but afaik UI's still locked down & not user-tweakable... +... their isolationist package system

[ybjrepnfr]

@TbGbe very witty, whistler, very witty... but all you're doing is shooting yourself in the foot. tis soooooooooo tragic

[ybjrepnfr]

@npro said in six × nine = ?:

while a certain someone was absent

only an uncertain nobody might understand this.

[npro]

@ybjrepnfr said in six × nine = ?:

UI's still locked down & not user-tweakable...

which is exactly what Macsters want and love, a beautiful, well thought, clean, compact and cohesive design with attention to every detail, I think you don't have any friend having used a Mac before

+... their isolationist package system

no big deal, we only need to explain that all software comes from flathub.org , Vivaldi going there as well in the future

A true beauty...

with native Mac controls for Mac hardware...

It would be even a huuuuge, gigantic upgrade for @TbGbe

[ybjrepnfr]

@npro oh yes indeed, i'm with you on this. if we can get these two reprobates across the line & into the land of penguins again [well, for one], just by using this distro as a gateway drug, that's still good progress. you're right!

[ybjrepnfr]

@npro said in six × nine = ?:

I think you don't have any friend having used a Mac before

i asked ALL my friend, & she said... "huh?".

[npro]

@ybjrepnfr lol, and when you showed her KDE she said what

• KDE is OK in their books, good looking with the blur and transparency, "minimal", but still kinda Windowzy (by default), and needs an extra hand of polish. /edit: Also, they don't like tweaking in general, otherwise they would be using a PC
• With Pop!_OS they laugh with the kindergarden/school look, target age: teens at max.
• GNOME is rejected as a Tablet UI, not serious enough, not suitable for their nice desktop and their nice slim Mac keyboard and mouse.

[ybjrepnfr]

@npro said in six × nine = ?:

GNOME is rejected as a Tablet UI, not serious enough

to be slightly serious [gasp!] for a moment, i expect i would be willing to try gnome again one century if the devs stop purging features & at least integrate a full-function system tray again. not having a s/t is a showstopper for me, & having to use a third-party extension for that functionality, knowing that every 6 months it will break, is unacceptable.

ofc, that's not gonna happen, but even if it did, there's still the question of the ridiculous kindergarten-style app UI design, with HUGE spacing, buttons etc. then there's ofc specific app silliness like the gnome file manager; what a joke compared to dolphin.

but, as an overall comment, many years ago when i first tried gnome3, i was so shocked by its alien UI & hence UX that i thought it was unusable. nowadays, i feel less hostile to it. NOT in love with it, mind you, just less scornful of it.

[npro]

@ybjrepnfr said in six × nine = ?:

i feel less hostile to it. NOT in love with it, mind you, just less scornful of it.

I can't stand it and will never do, I'm not BLIND thank Zeus, having to look at 128x128 icons in a gigantic taskbar, ffs!