VIvaldi still can not open a pages that use SSL / RC4

[denczy]

This webpage is not available ERR_SSL_VERSION_OR_CIPHER_MISMATCH Hide details A secure connection cannot be established because this site uses an unsupported protocol or cipher suite. This is likely to be caused when the server needs RC4, which is no longer considered secure. while other browser is can (firefox) just an axemple: https://www.****.com/index.php?app=core&module=global§ion=register when compatibility issues with encryption protocols will be eliminated? Thanks for attention.

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[saudiqbal]

Works fine here on Windows 10 X6 with Vivaldi X64

Connection
Protocol
TLS 1.2
Key Exchange
ECDHE_ECDSA
Cipher Suite
CHACHA20_POLY1305
Certificate
Subject
sni40265.cloudflaressl.com
SAN
sni40265.cloudflaressl.com
*.51av.us
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Valid From
Tue, 09 Feb 2016 00:00:00 GMT
Valid Until
Sun, 14 Aug 2016 23:59:59 GMT
Issuer
COMODO ECC Domain Validation Secure Server CA 2

[Isildur]

"Still"? The title of this thread is odd, since it phrases it as if it's something Vivaldi should change, but Vivaldi is correct in not supporting (by default) ciphers now known to be vulnerable to attack. Trusting such ciphers, like Gwen-Dragon warned, is dangerous.

Some sites might still support RC4 (particularly if the browser doesn't demand TLS 1.1+) to support old browsers, but newer versions of browsers have been dropping support for it, for good reason.

[vis0]

Am late to this discussion.
I understand its not good (to say the least) to use the unsecured SLL/RC4
In my case even the Vivaldi site cannot be seen among other well protected sites. instead the

shows up.
Could it be at the providers ends or some network connection not properly set?

[BoneTone]

@vis0 are you using a VPN, or any other external-to-the-browser network security tool, or similar extension?

• What version of your OS and Vivaldi are you using?
• Have tested in a new, clean profile?
  • Or at least have you tested with all extensions disabled?

This does not reproduce for me... on Vivaldi's or any other site.

[vis0]

@BoneTone

𝘃𝗶𝘀𝟬 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝘂𝘀𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮 𝗩𝗣𝗡, 𝗼𝗿 𝗮𝗻𝘆 𝗼𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝗲𝘅𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗻𝗮𝗹-𝘁𝗼-𝘁𝗵𝗲-𝗯𝗿𝗼𝘄𝘀𝗲𝗿 𝗻𝗲𝘁𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗸 𝘀𝗲𝗰𝘂𝗿𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝘁𝗼𝗼𝗹, 𝗼𝗿 𝘀𝗶𝗺𝗶𝗹𝗮𝗿 𝗲𝘅𝘁𝗲𝗻𝘀𝗶𝗼𝗻?

Not that I know of (on my end) maybe my provider is at its seems that searches are narrowed via some type of filter to lower the results as to not show too many similar sites.

𝐖𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐨𝐟 𝐲𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐎𝐒 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐕𝐢𝐯𝐚𝐥𝐝𝐢 𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐮𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠?
a win98se/winXP hybrid

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1.0.435.46 () (32-bit)
Revision 575538bc320e213510be1e66f3521382e615129d

OS Windows

Blink 537.36 (@575538bc320e213510be1e66f3521382e615129d)

JavaScript V8 4.9.385.33

Flash 32.0.0.363

User Agent Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/49.0.2623.110 Safari/537.36 Vivaldi/1.0.435.46

private

private

NO EXTENSION..yet

My worry is its the browser as use (make sure you're seated) a win98se/winXP hybrid (had board tattooed secretly by the towers maker in return for ideas in creating a better system, they included CDs for both systems)

Just was hoping it was some simple mismatch in the network connection settings that was not as simple as "its an old no longer safe security socket." since the Vivaldi pages are blocked. (Using much older fFox at this moment)

A reply on another sites thinks its the weird browser/board config so its too rare to figure out, still will read to see if anything that I can try pops up.

On the good note though I've downloaded Vivaldi over a decade ago (one of those people that downloads thousands of programs since early 1990s) never used it till a week ago. Already have 12 friends using it. My goodness its fast at both opening and loading,

Thank you Vivaldi Team for a work of art.

[Pathduck]

@vis0 Wow. First of all, much respect for keeping it old-school
No need to update if it works right?
(And no, I'm not being sarcastic, I mean that)

But your version of Vivaldi is four years old. You really need to update it as the first thing you do. Others can't really be expected to help if you're not running the same version. Don't even know if they implemented auto-update by version 1.0 so you'd probably need to do a manual install.

And Win98 (SE or not) is definitely not a supported OS. Don't get me wrong, it was a decent OS back in its day 20+ years ago but you're bound to run into issues sooner or later. Hope you're running a good Anti-virus mate

I'm curious, what's the spec of that machine?

Of course, you're welcome to try to run Vivaldi on Win98. In fact it would be interesting to know how it runs once you've updated it

[TbGbe]

@Pathduck said in VIvaldi still can not open a pages that use SSL / RC4:

But your version of Vivaldi is four years old. You really need to update it as the first thing you do

I think you've forgotten that Vivaldi 1.0 is the only version that will run on pre Windows 7 O.S.

I have a note here stating:
Last Vivaldi supported on XP and earlier is Snapshot 1.1.443.3 - New tab options !!

Edit: release blog for that version is https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/13967/snapshot-1-1-443-3-new-tab-options/

[Pathduck]

@TbGbe I've not forgotten. I never knew it was even supported as I didn't use Vivaldi back then

According to an online SSL test forum.vivaldi.net does not ask for RC4 so the error message is misleading. Most likely the old client and the server share no common secure ciphers so handshake was not able to complete.
https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=forum.vivaldi.net&s=104.22.79.179

[Catweazle]

@vis0 , as already mentioned, although perhaps it works for the moment, it is not at all advisable to use on the network, with more than 100,000 new malware and exploits/day, such an outdated OS and browser, which means a significant security risk.
On the other hand, and given that more current versions of Vivaldi will not work on W98 and on an obviously very old PC, perhaps the best solution would be to replace the OS with Linux, in which you can also use the latest versions of Vivaldi, much more stable and secure.
In order not to have many problems in the change and to be able to clarify immediately with a new OS, I recommend the Q4OS distro, very similar to the Windows environment* and that also works on very old PCs. (434Mb 32bit i386)
Download page or from the installation CD / USB that can be purchased in the page shop (price of the carrier device)

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