Poor Memory Management
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Greetings,
I absolutely love Vivaldi. But the one thing that I've had to suffer with since I started using it years ago, is the horrible memory management. Granted, I only have 4 GIG RAM on my laptop, I can use Firefox, Chrome and a few others all day with no problems whatsoever.
But I'm constantly having to reboot my laptop due to Vivaldi freezing. And it's because I apparently have too many open tabs for it's liking.
I use the other browser the same as I use Vivaldi, and I've never had my system freeze due to too many tabs.Please, fix this problem. Or tell me what I can do to stop Vivaldi from killing my laptop other than to only have a few tabs open (no more than 10). Is there no memory management at all with Vivaldi?
Besides this, no other browser comes close as far as features and aesthetics.
Great browser. Poor memory management.
iomari
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@iomari
Hi, it is not bad memory management, Vivaldi use 210 MB with 12 tabs and Chrome use 180 MB.
Some user report freeze with dark theme for example but it has nothing to do with poor MM.
You can check with a guest profile if one of your settings, extensions or corrupted profile lead to crash. https://help.vivaldi.com/article/guest-view/
Please add your Vivaldi version and system specs.
I test with more than 100 tabs open several times without problems on:OpenSUSE Tumbleweed
KDE-Plasma-Version: 5.21.4-1.1
i7-3520M CPU @ 2.90GHz 8 GiB
HD Graphics 4000
Vivaldi 3.7.2202.3 / Chrome 89.0.4389.53Cheers, mib
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With all due respect but i do find it bizarre that users have 10+tabs open and then wonder why the memory is used excessively.
In my personal case the exact opposite was experienced in regard to firefox where memory would balloon out of control with only 2-3 tabs open.
Certain criteria needs to be taken into account:
what sort of content is in the individual tabs and heavy media will certainly be a big hit on memory.There must be literally thousands of differing usage scenarios and computer hardware configurations in the world and it would be impossible for any software developer to be able to assure total stability in them all.
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I'll take into account all the suggestions above and see if I can get it under control.
Thanks for all the replies.iomari
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@iomari Do you know about Shift+Esc - the Vivaldi Task Manager? Best way to see where your memory has (officially) gone.
I keep Performance Monitor http://www.hexagora.com/en_dw_davperf.asp in my taskbar, so I get warned when I'm close to no more memory. It shows things Resource Monitor and Vivaldi Task Manager somehow ignore - it shows all your memory used long before the other programs, but it is exactly correct on when you'll see a failure.
What I've learned is that Vivaldi does not recapture all of the memory from closed tabs. If I hibernate my system across a few days, without restarting Vivaldi, the non-tab memory keeps going up. Then if I go on a tab binge, I run out of memory. Usually only the new tab fails, but sometimes the whole app crashes or locks up. And sometimes it totally disappears but is still running invisibly alongside the restarted version and using lots of memory.
To be fair, Win 10 also fails to recover memory and must be rebooted every few days to make space for Vivaldi. My Linux system can hibernate for months without its memory usage creeping up...
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@LorenAmelang said in Poor Memory Management:
@iomari Do you know about Shift+Esc - the Vivaldi Task Manager? Best way to see where your memory has (officially) gone.
I keep Performance Monitor http://www.hexagora.com/en_dw_davperf.asp in my taskbar, so I get warned when I'm close to no more memory. It shows things Resource Monitor and Vivaldi Task Manager somehow ignore - it shows all your memory used long before the other programs, but it is exactly correct on when you'll see a failure.
What I've learned is that Vivaldi does not recapture all of the memory from closed tabs. If I hibernate my system across a few days, without restarting Vivaldi, the non-tab memory keeps going up. Then if I go on a tab binge, I run out of memory. Usually only the new tab fails, but sometimes the whole app crashes or locks up. And sometimes it totally disappears but is still running invisibly alongside the restarted version and using lots of memory.
To be fair, Win 10 also fails to recover memory and must be rebooted every few days to make space for Vivaldi. My Linux system can hibernate for months without its memory usage creeping up...
Extremely helpful.
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@Gwen-Dragon Ooops - My notification jumped to the middle of the thread and I missed the "linux" at the very top. In Linux there are tons of system monitors, every display system has a few unique ones. If you look in your Preferences, some are probably already installed. Pick one that puts a memory graph in your dock / tray / panel / whatever you call it. And make sure it actually shows zero just before you crash...
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oh hey, I was just about to create a topic on this
yeah I have about 40 tabs open, but that's actually not the issueI should be able to have 40+ tabs open with 39 of them in hibernation and use less than 2GB of RAM.
but as of recent updates, Vivaldi has started to use over 2.5GB with that amount, and actually caused my PC to freeze this morning while running LBRY with swap disabled (I've had no issues before)...has Vivaldi given up on being a good browser??
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@guigirl said in Poor Memory Management:
@Tcll said in Poor Memory Management:
has Vivaldi given up on being a good browser??
What are you seriously expecting the answer to be, to that?
I'd like it to be no
but if care towards bloat and performance has dwindled then that means there aren't any more good chromium bases.EDIT: just to note I'm saying if I downgrade to 5 versions ago (if I could, wish I had an appimage)
vivaldi's memory use should be much less without changing anythingI used to be able to run LBRY with Vivaldi
now I can only use either or
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Few days ago just read that XFCE has a Bug and does not release Program's Ram.
Would be related?
Even with another DEs?"You cannot know the meaning of your life until you are connected to the power that created you" · Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi
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@Zalex108 said in Poor Memory Management:
Few days ago just read that XFCE has a Bug and does not release Program's Ram.
Would be related?
Even with another DEs?oh that's interesting
I'm using XFCE 4.12.0 (best version IMO) on the offending machine, so I'm not sure if it may or may not affect me...
another machine uses XFCE 4.14.4 and I haven't noticed anything weird like that with it...EDIT: btw, I don't think my system resources really paint a clear picture of how much RAM I'm actually using:
currently I'm using 2.6GiB with 0.4 of that dedicated to xorg, nemo, and other processes
vivaldi actually seems to be behaving a bit better today, but it's still obnoxious to be using so much RAM with only 3 tabs active... -
Memory consumption for me has never been an issue,in fact no issues with the browser at all and i have an old 32bit machine.
Guess im a lucky one eh.?
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