Vivaldi getting laggy after some time, then takes very long to close

mbert

I have been running into this for a couple of weeks now. All this happens after a while of active use. Three observations:

The browser feels laggy. In particular in Facebook, when writing text there is a noticable delay between hitting keys and seeing the result.
When opening a link in a background tab it sometimes just hangs and does not load. Pressing 'X' and then reload has no effect.
When then trying to quit the browser there's lots of threads seemingly hanging (or taking very long to close).

Today I closed the browser, and finding that it would still show up in the task list, I looked into the process list: lots of processes still active:

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I hard-killed them, but still two would show up, and repeated kill -1 seemed to have no effect:

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About 15 minutes later they finally disappeared.

Any hint?

Vivaldi 3.6.2165.36, MacOS 11.2.1

Priest72

If i may add.
It would seem there have been reports of lagging in all the main browsers in regard to facebook,Not sure if the new layout has anything to do with it,

i am assuming vivaldi helper is a mac OS specific function as i do not see that in linux.
have you by any chance turned off the background app settings in the chromium settings page.?....might help??.

mbert

@Priest72 said in Vivaldi getting laggy after some time, then takes very long to close:

If i may add.
It would seem there have been reports of lagging in all the main browsers in regard to facebook,Not sure if the new layout has anything to do with it,

I am pretty sure it has. It is far more "dynamic" and memory consuming now. But the problem does not seem to be restricted to FB.

have you by any chance turned off the background app settings in the chromium settings page.?....might help??.

Never heard of that, hence, no.

Streptococcus

@mbert
Do you clear the cache and the history regularly? I find that keeping a browser lean and mean makes it more responsive.

TbGbe · Win: Snapshot Vivaldi 7.4.3670.3

@mbert said in Vivaldi getting laggy after some time, then takes very long to close:

have you by any chance turned off the background app settings in the chromium settings page.?....might help??.

Never heard of that, hence, no.

Open chrome://settings/system
(when loaded, it will change to vivaldi: but ignore that you need the chrome page).
Disable 'Continue running background apps when Vivaldi is closed' Restart Vivaldi

mbert

@Streptococcus said in Vivaldi getting laggy after some time, then takes very long to close:

@mbert
Do you clear the cache and the history regularly? I find that keeping a browser lean and mean makes it more responsive.

Yes, pretty often, though not regularly. BTW is there an option to clear the cache each time the browser starts up? I could not find anything in the settings dialogue.

mbert

@TbGbe said in Vivaldi getting laggy after some time, then takes very long to close:

Open chrome://settings/system
(when loaded, it will change to vivaldi: but ignore that you need the chrome page).
Disable 'Continue running background apps when Vivaldi is closed' Restart Vivaldi

There is no such option here. Maybe not available on MacOS?

xyzzy

@mbert said in Vivaldi getting laggy after some time, then takes very long to close:

Open chrome://settings/system
(when loaded, it will change to vivaldi: but ignore that you need the chrome page).
Disable 'Continue running background apps when Vivaldi is closed' Restart Vivaldi

There is no such option here. Maybe not available on MacOS?

No, there is no such option on macOS. I'm not sure what's going on here. The last time that I saw problems with Vivaldi on macOS not shutting down cleanly when you Quit was almost 3 years ago.

Are you running any extensions, anything that could be discarding tabs and not allowing them to wake? How many tabs did you have open and are they related?

It looks like something is getting stuck and preventing the Helper renderer from terminating.

ps shows most of the processes in a "Z" (zombie) state. That happens when a process terminates and is waiting for its parent process to pick up its exit status. I can't see the PPID(s) for those zombie processes. You may need to reboot your Mac to clean those up, and those remnant processes could be causing other problems.

When was the last time that you rebooted your Mac? You should Quit Vivaldi, reboot your Mac, relaunch Vivaldi, Quit Vivaldi, and then check to make sure that Vivaldi has indeed closed down fully and that no Vivaldi processes remain running after you Quit.

mbert

@xyzzy said in Vivaldi getting laggy after some time, then takes very long to close:

Are you running any extensions, anything that could be discarding tabs and not allowing them to wake? How many tabs did you have open and are they related?

I've been running the same set of extensions for a long time ("long" meaning most for seveal years, some for several months):

Advanced Font Settings
Binnen-I be gone
Google Docs Offline
Google Translate
Pop up blocker for Chrome - Poper Blocker
Read Aloud: A Text to Speech Voice Reader
Social Fixer for Facebook
Stylus
uBlock Origin
User-Agent Switcher for Chrome

When was the last time that you rebooted your Mac? You should Quit Vivaldi, reboot your Mac, relaunch Vivaldi, Quit Vivaldi, and then check to make sure that Vivaldi has indeed closed down fully and that no Vivaldi processes remain running after you Quit.

I have been rebooting my Mac rather often recently, most of the time because I hoped Vivaldi would behave better afterwards.

I usually have a large number of tabs open organised in two windows (there's a bug related to multi-window setup pending). Also there is Firefox open, again with a lot of tabs.

xyzzy

@mbert Thanks. As I said before, I'm not sure what is happening here. My "gut feeling" is that this might be extension-related. However, it's hard to investigate this further without knowing what is causing the problem or ruling out potential causes. It's also possible that your Vivaldi profile has gotten into a bad state.

To me, based on your ps output, it looks like the tabs are shutting down and their renderers terminate but the main Vivaldi task is getting stuck at some point while trying to shut the browser down cleanly. I will ask about this internally to see if anybody has any other ideas or can offer a second opinion.

Chas4

I know Facebook has something strange with their site code as over time a Facebook tab uses lots of RAM (in Safari it might get over 2GB while idle or just scrolling, I think it also happens to Vivaldi). In Vivaldi task manager what does the RAM and CPU usage show when it is slow?

uBlock Origin has a pop up blocker of sorts.