Uninformed mentions of Vivaldi.

[TbGbe]

@guigirl

Brave, Edge, Opera, Vivaldi, and so many other browsers are all basically just reskinned chromium.

But surely even thinking that Chrome is "the same" as Chromium is simply clueless?

[TbGbe]

@guigirl Sure!!

[prascal]

@guigirl uuuummh... What exactly do you mean? What exactly is it that you think sucks?

I don't think this "contribution" is as bad as you say. He comes up with a few good points, ans the included browser reviews and comparisons are all fine..
Of course it is an old story that Chrome Browser is spyware, but it is also fact that a billion users doesn't give a shit about it or are still not aware of it.

Even though the message in the video may not get across somehow, I think he is right in what he says about "we as users are the losers in the Web Browser War".
The web user in general has come under massive pressure and continues losing ground on all fronts. In recent years, big tech has repeatedly flexed its muscles and revealed its true nature. It's not just about web browser diversity, it's about digital diversity, the health of our digital society, freedom of choice, freedom of expression and equal opportunities in general. It's about a free internet and about democracy.

It is frightening to see how irresponsibly Big Tech is using its gained power, and how shamelessly this supremacy is being exploited.
The tech elite have obviously maintain very good contacts with influential people in politics and business. These synergies have become more evident recently and clearly reveal that big tech is using its power to shape opinion of the vast majority and protect the interests of the powerful, as well as its own of course. I would call it Tech Deep State, if you will!

The Parler case and the incredible speed in which the service was pulled the plug practically overnight is shocking and alarming at the same time. And this is just one of the many examples how they abuse its power. Regardless of Parlers political orientation, such moves are highly illegal and can't be decided nor executed by tech companies themselves...

Do we really want to let such milksops like Zuck and all the other fucked up Silicon Valley dickheads having the power to tell what is right and what wrong, who may stay or must leave immediately? wtf!

I would be happy if more people would get involved to wake up the sleeping sheep herd (critical mass) before the pack of wolves has killed all of them.

Choosing the right browser is more then ever before crucial and I would like to see more people questioning the unhealthy dominance of Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Zucks Fuckbook, Twitter and all their lackeys, questioning the power of those oversized tech players, defence against cooperate mass surveillance and oppose against the Silicon Valley technocracy in a more determined way!

The power lies entirely in our collective hands!

I would like to see more people being more critical, fighting for a more open and free internet, questioning and actively boycott the dubious, malicious and anti-democratic manoeuvres of the dominating Big Tech conglomerates.

Thank you for your consideration!

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[mstaros]

@prascal Parley ban is legal. Citation: Private companies are under no First Amendment obligation to host or allow forms of speech, including ones protected by that amendment, if they deem that speech to violate their standards.

[Eggcorn]

@mstaros It's not simply a matter of speech. Multiple Big Tech companies colluded, to go out of their way to suppress a non-Big Tech alternative. Situations like that are why we have anti-trust laws.

[Catweazle]

@eggcorn , I am many times in debates with FOSS freaks who think that 'Vivaldi is not FOSS and therefore is rubbish'
Who believe that FOSS is synonymous with security and privacy, although it has nothing to do with each other, but they believe that they are very experts on the subject and claim to be able to check the product script, in case it contains spyware and strange things, Which of course, in the case of millions of lines of code, is absolute nonsens.
But these people abound, the guy in Video is just one more example.

[Eggcorn]

@catweazle Was that supposed to be a reply to me?

[Catweazle]

@eggcorn , not directly. There also comments paid by Big Tech companies, which make comments of this type or directly ignores other than Chrome Edge, Firefox, Opera and maybe Brave.
But the base problem are the user itself, with a bad ordeficient information, which belief that the earth is flat, becaus a simpatic guy, with a lot of books stands behind proof it in YouTube.
YT is full with every kind of experts, and more which believe in them, without own criteria or reasoning.
It is enough to ask them, which of them has read the TOS and the Privacy Policy of a product, only once, before accepting them.
This is what Big Tech companies know, and what they use and abuse.

[mstaros]

@eggcorn Anti-trust laws are about any monopoly market, not specifically about Big Tech. Even most evil of them must have the same rights as non-Big Tech companies, namely - rights to moderate their content.

[Eggcorn]

@mstaros said in Uninformed mentions of Vivaldi.:

Anti-trust laws are about any monopoly market, not specifically about Big Tech.

Yes.

Even most evil of them must have the same rights as non-Big Tech companies, namely - rights to moderate their content.

Okay, when did I say they didn't have the right to moderate their content?

[mstaros]

Okay, because the discussion was about rights of moderation I took your post as continuation of it.

[guigirl]

Here's another possible doofus.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/696762/6-reasons-to-quit-chrome-and-switch-to-vivaldi-browser.html

About the only “annoyance” is that Vivaldi, like many other browsers, encourages you to sign up and log in with a custom account to preserve your bookmarks, reading list, and more across multiple PCs.

Ah, when i first read this article, i entirely missed seeing the last three words [my italics, above], hence my pupils dilated & i began frothing at the mouth wrongly thinking this bloke was misleading readers with a lie that V would somehow "lose" all your bookmarks etc unless you created an account. Even upon realising my error, he still seems to have chosen a strange way just to say "V has Sync".

(Note that you are absolutely not required to enter an account to use Vivaldi, at all.)

Erm, oops, yeah i initially missed this too. Oh, look over there!

With Vivaldi, there’s little reason to use Reader View, as the default view is simply more effective. In some cases, Reader View added visual cruft as it spelled out certain normally hidden elements within the page.

Um, yeah, i tend to agree with him. Why RV is a thing remains a mystery to me.

Figuring out what all the icons stand for and where they live is probably the most unfriendly part of Vivaldi, as it feels a bit like poking around the instrument panel on an unfamiliar car.

Geez, just as i was beginning to quite like the bloke, he goes & says a doofus thing again. Is it maybe only in the Southern Hemisphere where V's Panel's hover-names appear?

Certain functions might not be that useful, either such as a built-in Google Translate widget.

Wait, what? It's not gargle; why'd he say that? I mean, it even plainly says...

About the only thing I don’t like about it is that while you can drag and drop Bookmarks any place you’d like, you can’t rearrange the RSS feeds for whatever reason.

Speaking of tabs, tabs management is Vivaldi’s bread and butter. There are really almost too many options, even for power users!

Oh dear dog. Only someone so technically naive as to be unaware of TreeStyleTab / Sidebery could say something so silly & misleading.

Like virtually every other feature in this list, there’s no obligation to use these. And there are even more, hidden within the Settings menu, that I don’t use: mouse gestures, keyboard shortcuts, and more. There are even “command chains,” or in-browser macros that you can use to execute multiple tasks all in one fell swoop. Those are for the real power users.

The what menu?

OK, well, i suppose there's been worse articles. Better ones though, too.