PGP/GPG De-/Encryption and Signing

pointed.stick

Soooo, "1.0", "5.5", etc.

May I inquire how mail encryption is coming along? Is it still on the todo list or was it abandoned?

IIRC it was promised since Opera 7

LonM

@pointed-stick It is still planned, but no timeline yet.

pointed.stick

That means, that there isn't even someone working on it right now, right?

What is planned? Only PGP or PGP and S/MIME?

LonM

@pointed-stick If this is implemented PGP is likely, maybe S/MIME, but I am not aware of what the plan is exactly. I'm not a Vivaldi developer, so I can't say for sure.

pointed.stick

Okay, back to being hopeful. Maybe it'll take less than another seven years...

DoctorG

@pointed-stick Hmm, i do not thinks so, but as i sadly remember when i was working in office with Opera Mail, S/MIME or OpenPGP was announced but it never got it.
Vivaldi will not step into such dead-end street again.

ZakMcKracken

Especially since the Vivaldi webmail interface uses Mailvelope to let people send/receive PGP-encrypted e-mail, I think a compatible desktop client is in order. There's a host of open-source mail clients which seem to work just fine (personally tried Thunderbird, Kmail -- no problems. Claws and Evolution have it too, but I haven't properly used the feature, just checked that I can set it up).

Of course, I'd expect that there are probably legal issues preventing Vivaldi from integrating at least some of the available open-source libraries, which brings me back to my pet complaint that Vivaldi is still closed and commercial, which means that as long as the users are not the only/main paying customers there will always be an economic incentive for selling out their users to whatever extent Vivaldi thinks they can get away with. Which might be just a tiny little bit (preconfigured bookmarks, default settings that paying customers prefer...), but there's a well-trodden road from there to the worst excesses of the surveillance economy.

And now I'm sad again

Yes, there's probably very few people using PGP regularly, but lack of support in clients is one of the reasons for it, and it shouldn't be that hard to implement.

Pesala

@ZakMcKracken Please vote for the existing request PGP-GPG De-encryption and Signing

DoctorG

Now many years later, no OpenPGP support? very sad.
For me this is a lack of Privacy and Trust to use it as a mail client in business.

And please vote for S/MIME ⇒ https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/90674/add-s-mime-to-vivaldi-mail/1

Need to discuss? See https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/90676/vivaldi-presents-itself-as-a-browser-and-mail-client-for-good-privacy-but-whats-about-mail-signature-encryption-in-these-times/1

w.tromp

No built-in support for OpenPGP unfortunately means there is until now still no reason to use Vivaldi Mail instead of Thunderbird. Creating decentalised stored PGP keys is possible with the built in OpenPGP support in Thunderbird. Storing PGP-keys on a centralised mailserver is in my opinion fundamentally an unsafe practice.

jacobi75

Please let me know when the pgp/gpg encryption feature will be added ? I use a mailbox with end to end encryption and without this feature Vivaldi mail client is useless.

oriold

This is a big blocker, more and more providers are allowing encryption at rest with PGP, the fact that this is not there is a big blocker.

Regards,

finway

Yet
Another
M3
Sea snake

Good luck fellas 🤍

zenfisher

Has PGP/GPG been implemented in 2025?

Just installed Vivadi but can't use the mail client until that is supported...

WildEnte

@zenfisher nope, not implemented.

WildEnte

@sjo1 please see this hint from Pesala above:

Pesala said in PGP/GPG De-/Encryption and Signing:

@ZakMcKracken Please vote for the existing request PGP-GPG De-encryption and Signing

DoctorG

Still a missing feature

koteisaev

I surprised that initial post of this very important feature request has so few upvotes (just 2 including mine).
May be lack of upvotes is one of reasons why it takes so long to implement? Even related S/MIME support feature request has more upvotes (10 with mine).

Basically lack of support for PGP signing and verification is single thing that prevents me to completely ditch the client I use so far (Thunderbird)

Pesala

@koteisaev The first post has 71 upvotes. Check again on the first page.

koteisaev

@Pesala Then I completely got confused with forum UI...
I thought these likes counters are number of upvotes..

Where are these upvotes?