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    • da1bigkahuna
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      da1bigkahuna
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      I don't know if this just started or has been around since most of my typing in browsers is with Safari, but I have done some in Vavaldi before but this is the first I've noticed this.

      I was writing a post on Facebook and saw that EVERY time a word started with "co" that it would show a default correction of "to". Further, it didn't matter if I kept typing more after the "co". For example, if I started to type "company", it would end up saying "tompany"!!!

      I tried turning off auto correct and also quit and relauched Vivaldi but it still does the same thing.

      Meanwhile, I'm typing here in Vivaldi and if a word start with co, sure enough, the "to" shows up again, but if I continue typing a longer word, it doesn't mess up. So Facebook, for some reason, makes this worse.

      But even here there is an issue. For example, if type, including the quotes:

      "co"

      it will change it to:

      "to"

      The ONLY way to get it right is to click the X on the "to" suggested correction! Which is kind of ridiculous. Even though I have auto-correct turned off.

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        da1bigkahuna
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        I even tried turning off auto correct on my Mac. Problem remains. Considering how many words start with "co", as long as this problem exists, typing on vivaldi is not a very good option! In safari, on the same page of facebook, if I type "co" and pause, it will so "to" as the correction, but when I continue typing, it disappears and no harm done. And if I don't pause, the "to" choice doesn't even show up. But in Vivaldi, it does no matter how fast I type.

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          TbGbe @da1bigkahuna
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          @da1bigkahuna What are your O.S. and Vivaldi versions?

          Meanwhile, I'm typing here in Vivaldi and if a word start with co, sure enough, the "to" shows up again, but if I continue typing a longer word, it doesn't mess up.

          Doesn't happen to me (on Linux) with English (UK) - What are your Vivaldi language and spellcheck settings?

          Win: Snapshot Vivaldi 7.4.3684.3

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          • da1bigkahuna
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            da1bigkahuna @TbGbe
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            @TbGbe

            I use a Mac with the latest Mojave (I do plan to switch to Big Sur after it is released).

            In Vivaldi, spell check is off (it was on when I first experienced this).

            Spell check is also now off in the Mac system prefs.

            Language is U.S. English

            I can't be sure this is a new issue, though I usually type in Safari. But I'd be shocked if I didn't type enough before that I would have seen it before now, since the "co" is such a common.

            No idea why facebook would be worse - that I can't type anything that starts with "co", but on this site, the only problem is if I ONLY type those two letters, it will switch to "to".

            BTW, just in case, I turned off the only active extension I had (uBlock Origin). Made no difference, even after relaunching Vivaldi.

            Also tried relauching Vivaldi and even rebooting my Mac. Problem is still there.

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              TbGbe @da1bigkahuna
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              @da1bigkahuna

              In Vivaldi, spell check is off (it was on when I first experienced this).

              Yes, but if anyone tries to reproduce this they will need to know how to configure Vivaldi settings!

              Also tried relauching Vivaldi and even rebooting my Mac. Problem is still there.

              Did you try a Guest Profile and/or Private Window?

              Win: Snapshot Vivaldi 7.4.3684.3

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                da1bigkahuna @TbGbe
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                @TbGbe

                Just tried both guest profile and private window. Same problem.

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                • da1bigkahuna
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                  da1bigkahuna @TbGbe
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                  @TbGbe

                  A bit more info that is odd.

                  I was typing a few minutes ago on facebook, with the usual problem. But one time I started typing "complete" and - it worked! Tried it a bunch of times after that and it didn't work, but I remembered the one time it did work, I had a very tiny hesitation afer the first two letters. So I started experimenting.

                  Typing fast never worked. Typing slow never worked. Typing the first two letters (fairly fast in my limited testing) and doing an obvious pause never worked.

                  But if I did a VERY slight pause (tiny fraction of a second), sometimes it would work just fine and I would not even see the pop-up giving "to" as a choice. Trying this a number of times, it usually still didn't work, but several times it did. I guess the delay is really sensitive to the exact amount.

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                    TbGbe @da1bigkahuna
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                    @da1bigkahuna Very strange, best to see if another Mac user such as @xyzzy has any ideas.

                    Win: Snapshot Vivaldi 7.4.3684.3

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                    • da1bigkahuna
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                      da1bigkahuna @TbGbe
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                      @TbGbe

                      It keeps getting weirder!

                      A little while ago I found that if I typed "co" and then waited approximately two seconds, that it would type correctly. This is much easier to repeat than the really tiny pause I posted about earlier, though it is still a little tricky since waiting too long will mess up too.

                      Then a few minutes ago it got even stranger. I had done this 2 second delay when typing "the company". Then I wondered what would happen if I just kept typing "company" since it was already in the text box once. It typed correctly every time! So I cleared the text box and tried again. It still typed correctly. Went back a few minutes later and still worked (I do usually see the "to" option pop up but immediately disappear as I get past the first two letters).

                      Done a series of these tests and, sometimes, I will get it changed to "to", but at least so far in my brief testing, it has only happened when I use a new word that starts with "co" but not always. Once a word works, it has kept working!

                      I'll do more testing tomorrow.

                      But since that was much better, I started working on my more specific example - just typing "co" and a space or period. That one still usually won't work, though sometimes it will with the right delay. And I've gotten it, once it does work, to sometimes work at normal typing pace consecutively. But never for more than a few tries so far.

                      It does make me wonder if there is some computer learning going on. I know the Mac will, if I use a word it doesn't know a number of times, it will stop auto correcting it.

                      Well, tomorrow might reveal more.

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                        da1bigkahuna @TbGbe
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                        @TbGbe

                        Bad news. The problem is fully back. I can't get the roughly 2 second delay to work at all in my test today. I can get the very tiny delay to work sometimes. But when it does work, if I type the same word again, it is right back to not working but yesterday, once a word worked, it kept working.

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                          da1bigkahuna @TbGbe
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                          @TbGbe

                          And now, other than typing ONLY "co", it seems to be working again. Maybe Vivaldi is haunted!

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                            TbGbe @da1bigkahuna
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                            @da1bigkahuna Or your keyboard is haunted ๐Ÿ‘ป

                            Win: Snapshot Vivaldi 7.4.3684.3

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                              Is this auto-correct a Mac OS only thing? Because I've never seen any option in Vivaldi for auto correct. There's spell check sure, which underlines any errors, but nothing where text is automatically changed.

                              Maybe it's a OS feature on Mac?

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                                da1bigkahuna @Pathduck
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                                @Pathduck

                                Yeah, I should have said spell check. But I've unchecked the option to correct spelling in the mac OS too - yet that "to" popup suggestion still shows up almost every time in Vivaldi.

                                There is something else odd about it to me. It has a bit of a tab attached to it:

                                Screen Shot 2020-10-23 at 2.59.10 PM.png

                                Based on looking at the results in another app, it seems that little tab is supposed to highlight the word it is offering the suggestion to - but in vivaldi, the correction and that tab pop up far away from where I'm typing. So that's another oddity.

                                Today it is working again - other than trying to just type "co".

                                But I have discovered some other details. For example, in Notes, I can type "Co" to abbreviate "Company". But not in vivaldi. I thought maybe I could solve that by entering it in the spelling list but when I looked there, I saw I had created an item that said if I type "co" to change it to "to". I had forgotten as it was a long time ago. On my keyboard (dvorak layout), I often found myself mistyping that. But I have no idea why Vivaldi doesn't react the same as Notes. Nor why either one is making the correction even though I have it turned off. Unless there is some other place that has to be changed too. I looked at prefs for Notes but nothing there. Under the "edit" menu, there is an item for automatically correcting, but that was not checked either. Tried checking it and it did the same thing. Unchecked it again and still did the same thing.

                                So, just now I removed that spelling "correction" from the Mac OS list. That solves the immediate problem, though I'll suffer with making the typo again. And it still doesn't explain why Vivaldi reacts differently to it (especially on facebook) than elsewhere. Nor why it is doing auto correcting even when that option has not been checked. Or for that matter why it sometimes works on longer words and other times, at least on facebook, it sometimes doesn't!

                                Now I need to see if I can come up with a way I can put that correction from co to to back in and still find a way for it not to screw up other words.

                                Thanks everyone for all the feedback. It kept me looking for solutions - even if my present one isn't ideal. And maybe at some point it will be discovered why Vivaldi is acting differently.

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                                  What is your Vivaldi version?


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                                    Vivaldi 3.4.2066.86 (Stable channel) (x86_64)
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