New Tab customization



  • Hello, I downloaded and tried Vivaldi today. A big throwback for Vivaldi is not having the option to customize the new tab page. I do not want speed dial when I open a new tab. I have my own customized page for that. Until this becomes available I can't make Vivaldi my default browser and will most likely not use it. Sorry.



  • @argyris:

    Hello,

    I downloaded and tried Vivaldi today. A big throwback for Vivaldi is not having the option to customize the new tab page. I do not want speed dial when I open a new tab. I have my own customized page for that. Until this becomes available I can't make Vivaldi my default browser and will most likely not use it. Sorry.

    A pretty lame reason to be honest as it's not hard to find a workaround until it's fixed
    For example:
    [ol]

    • Ctrl N to open a new tab followed by Alt + Home to go to your home page.
    • If you use the bookmarks bar, then you can add your home page to that.
      [/ol]
      No doubt there are others.

    I understand that such workarounds may not suit you, but to cite the lack of a single missing feature as a reason for not using Vivaldi at all is immature.

    There are several important features that I need before it becomes my default browser, but I still use it as my GoTo browser for sites that don't work in Opera 12.17 (my browser of choice). Vivaldi is actually set as my default (though I don't use it that much) because it's less likely to break for those pages that launch your default browser.



  • Hello Pesala

    First of all thank you for taking the time to respond. My thank yous stop right about here as the context of your message in no way resembles how community help page users should behave. Calling someone's opinions and choices lame or immature are not the way to present your own opinion. That is your choice but I choose not to comment any further and explain how the solution you suggest does not fully address the problem I am stating.

    Thanks again for taking the time to respond but I will patiently await for the next community user to respond-hopefully more politely.



  • @argyris:

    I will patiently await for the next community user to respond-hopefully more politely.

    I already said that I understand such workarounds may not satisfy your needs.

    Do you think that the developers will think, “We had better fix this right away or users are not going to use our browser?”

    What can anyone else offer you? Is it sympathy that you want?

    Be constructive. This is Beta software and still some way from ready for prime-time use. Expressing nothing but your disapproval of the browser and the genuine support offered won't bring you any benefits.

    If you want polite responses, one way to almost guarantee it is to introduce yourself with a polite request, not a complaint.

    Hi guys, I tried this browser, but I could not see any way to customise my New Tab page. Is there some way to do this?


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    @argyris:

    Hello,

    I downloaded and tried Vivaldi today. A big throwback for Vivaldi is not having the option to customize the new tab page. I do not want speed dial when I open a new tab. I have my own customized page for that. Until this becomes available I can't make Vivaldi my default browser and will most likely not use it. Sorry.

    Vivaldi is still extremely immature. The first stable version has not even been reached yet. Think of features you miss not as "throwbacks" but rather as features that simply haven't been included yet. There are miles to go before this browser is feature-complete, given that its interface, menus, interaction with the engine on top of which it operates, are being written line by line from scratch in a set of technologies which have never been used as the substance and framework for a browser before. The goal is to ultimately do everything Opera 12 could, or nearly that, plus things Opera 12 never dreamed of. It's easy to think "how dumb" Vivaldi is for not having this or that feature that some new user has always seen in browsers (or a browser) in the past, but the developers are having to prioritize which functions to build, and which ones to debug or breakfix (after each new version of the Chromium engine breaks them) first.

    For instance, when tab stacking was first introduced to this browser, one could stack pinned tabs. Chromium 46 broke that function, and the developers have not yet had the time/resources to fix that fact. In the meantime, a slew of OTHER problems have been solved, like the compatibility with several hundred Chrome extensions, various CPU- and RAM-hogging problems, no trashcan for notes or bookmarks, very laggy typing in bookmark edit dialogues, crippled video compatibility, and a hundred more. This, with a team of about 15 developers. My motto? "Patience is key."



  • that is your problem with tabs??

    there are basic things missing, like disabling 'close button', middle mouse to open new tab, click to minimize



  • For those of us who have been working with Vivaldi and its developers for months, we have all used work arounds or done without certain features while the developers are adding new features and fixing bugs. Some of the features you miss are available through Chrome extensions. Members of the Vivaldi community have contributed countless hours of their time to help make Vivaldi the best browser for users who want to customize their internet experience. I feel we are already past Opera 12.17 and continuing to go forward.

    If you chose to move on, I think you are missing a chance to really enjoy browsing again.



  • @litehorse3:

    I feel we are already past Opera 12.17

    not where it counts for me, that is customizability
    there are no skins, no user preferences per domain, the basic Opera 12.xx stuff :(

    so far Vivaldi is a Chrome that doesnt suck too much, not a great browser Opera 12 was.



  • @rasz_pl:

    @litehorse3:

    I feel we are already past Opera 12.17

    not where it counts for me, that is customizability
    there are no skins, no user preferences per domain, the basic Opera 12.xx stuff :(

    so far Vivaldi is a Chrome that doesnt suck too much, not a great browser Opera 12 was.

    Each user has his own set of customization tweaks that he wants to see available in a browser. I can see where these features might be important to you (particularly site-specific settings)… but to me (and some others), there are other features/tweaks that seem equally or much more important to us. And in that context, to such users, Vivaldi is already past Opera 12.17.

    Regardless, the over-arching point to realize is that Vivaldi is still very much a work in progress. As it becomes more stable and feature-invested, more and more users will find their particular favorite customizations arriving. Right now, it is what it is: the very first Beta version, with the promise of much more to come hanging in the air. For some of the missing features, there may be extensions for interim usage; for other features, patience is the watchword. A key goal of Vivaldi is to ultimately provide thorough and comprehensive customizability - it's "who the devs are".



  • @Pesala:

    @argyris:

    Be constructive. This is Beta software and still some way from ready for prime-time use. Expressing nothing but your disapproval of the browser and the genuine support offered won't bring you any benefits.

    :)



  • I have the same request. The first thing I do when setting up a browser is set the home page and make sure new tabs open that page. Having to select it from Speed Dial is slow and annoying, and my one real complaint with Vivaldi.

    A secondary complaint is hidden settings, and other settings that cannot be changed – you promote Vivaldi as customizable for power users, but it doesn't come close to what Opera offered. Some options are, of course, rarely used or dangerous. Perhaps offer option levels of normal, advanced and expert?

    I currently rely on Opera 12 (Linux), and use Chrome/Chromium when I access Google Sites (because Google makes sure nothing else works well). When Vivaldi gets stable e-mail, it probably will be the only browser I use.

    I wish to make a suggestion. The new tab home page I want contains all my bookmarks, including search boxes for Google, Wikipedia, IMDB and Amazon, and notes user names and passwords. Everything is in one place, visible and organized. I used to use Galeon, which generated a bookmark page automatically. Now I do it manually. There are three levels: categories, subcategories and site sub-links, separated by a tilde (Vivaldi ~ forums ~ blogs). The Speed Dial concept is similar but poorly implemented and bloated with images. I suggest you take it all the way by generating HTML pages from bookmarks; give the option to rearrange, and optionally note user names and passwords. I am attaching a partial screenshot to illustrate. I've removed my user names and passwords, and some other identifying details.

    This also allows me to use nothing but the tab bar, getting the browser out of the way as much as possible. Vivaldi's integration of the menu on the tab bar is a big plus for me, though it takes up too much space even after tweaking the common.css file.
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  • Thanks everyone for your request. This is something in our pipeline and will come after we have released the final version. Thanks for your patience in the meantime. :)



  • Thanks everyone for your request. This is something in our pipeline and will come after we have released the final version. Thanks for your patience in the meantime. :)



  • Hey everyone,

    Would like to start by thanking Vivaldi for an awesome new browser. Customization is key. Allow people to have things their way and you can make (almost) everyone happy.

    Very glad to hear you're going to allow users to control their own new tab pages… I joined just up to add my voice to the chorus!

    Just as an example of a common user I'll throw in my two cents if that's OK?

    I have no need for the speed dial page. My speed dial is the bookmark bar -Ctrl+Shift+B- using the icons only... I have 47 bookmarks there (and there's a little empty space all the way to the right so I could probably fit 48 by messing with padding or whatever).

    I do however (in Chromium presently) use the new tab function in concert with the Palettetab extension: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/palettab/bidckpnndigbjhmojikkhmejkfkpgoih?hl=en

    This extension gives me a random set of 5 coordinated color swatches as well as 5 random typefaces every time I open a new tab (or refresh the new tab page). As a designer I frequently use this for inspiration, for discovering interesting new color combos and/or fonts.

    So it would be really nice if you could restore that function!

    Chromium allows this extension to control the new tab page but this capability seems to have been removed in Vivaldi... Perhaps only temporarily?

    Another point I had regarding the speed dial page is that some people would no doubt not want their most visited sites to be visible for others to see every time they open a new tab.

    Just food for thought I guess at this point... Thanks again guys

    Cheers



  • +1 for this new tab customization. Even though Vivaldi 1.0 is just released … the new tab customization is not part of the first stable build :cry:



  • I found a solution this and just wanted to share. I am a major fan of Modern New Tab Page (originally a chrome extension). I'll just write down my steps and you can try to see if it works for you.
    1. Install whatever chrome extension that sets your new tab page to vivaldi.
    2. go to address "vivaldi://newtab" make sure there is no '/' character at the end. if there is one, it takes you to chrome new tab page.
    3. If it does take you to your expected new tab page (the one from extension), then press F12 and go into developer mode in the new tab page.
    4. Find the Network tab and hit F5
    5. You'll end up with a bunch of requests, go to top and find the chronologically first request. For my case, it's a Default.html. Right click on that and copy link address.
    6. Now take that address and set it as your homepage, new tab address, whatever..

    Enjoy :)



  • @alpsayin:

    2. go to address "vivaldi://newtab" make sure there is no '/' character at the end. if there is one, it takes you to chrome new tab page.

    Enjoy :)

    I wrote that a zillion of times here

    just use vivaldi://newtab as a generic address for any new tab extension

    OR

    use the specific address if you have more than one installed

    for example

    chrome-extension://llaficoajjainaijghjlofdfmbjpebpa/newtab.html

    to open FVD Speed dial

    or
    chrome-extension://gpdpldlbafdmhlmcdllcjgoigmpjonfc/newtab.html

    to open Simple Speed Dial



  • The option to set the URL for New Tabs has already been implemented in 1.3 snapshots.

    Set any page you like, including a local HTML file if you don't want to use the speed dial.



  • lol
    [attachment=3762]newtab.png[/attachment]
    for any speed dial extension

    @The_Solutor:

    just use vivaldi://newtab as a generic address for any new tab extension

    vivaldi://newtab doesn't work for me but chrome://newtab does
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  • Sorry, google still took me to this thread and a bunch of rather unrelated subjects. I probably should've used the forum's search function :/.


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