Bookmark Manager

zigojacko

What do you all use to save, organise and manage bookmarks?

I really like the native Vivaldi browser's bookmark manager but am concerned about performance deterioration over time with the more bookmarks that get added.

Does anyone use any third party bookmark managers that integrates into Vivaldi very well.

I've spent hours recently testing and trialling loads of different bookmark systems and none of them apart from Vivaldi's native one are suitable.

Ultimately, from the browser, I need a quick and easy way of saving URLs as a bookmark and also quickly and easily loading a URL from my bookmarks. Who'd have thought this would be such a problem...!?

Pesala

@zigojacko I never found it to be a problem.

I mostly use the Bookmarks Bar to use saved bookmarks
The Bookmarks Panel is the most convenient way to organise them. I see no advantage of the Bookmarks Tab, but that is another way to organise your bookmarks.

BoneTone

I don't think you have you worry about performance issues with the native Vivaldi tools when your bookmarks library gets large. I use the native tools and I have over 120 thousand bookmarks.

I like to use the Bookmark Manager in a tab with the Bookmarks Panel open for organizational tasks such as creating folders and moving bookmarks into them, moving folders from one location to another, changing the order of folders, etc.

For deduplication I use an extension called Bookmarks clean up (yes, with that capitalization). It's very helpful for identifying and removing duplicate bookmarks, so I now have virtually zero duplication in my library -- with the intentional exceptions of the Speed Dial, Bookmarks Bar, and some mobile bookmarks. Those folders and any others in which I knowingly have duplicates stored, I use the settings to exclude them from the duplicates search.

My process involves running the extension when necessary (such as after an import, or a research session that could have generated duplicates). First I'll click the button to remove duplicates in the same folder. Then I'll scroll through the list of duplicates and picking which ones to delete is typically easy -- usually I want to delete the new ones. Instead of having to tick each individual bookmark I click the eye next to the folder name which will toggle all duplicates in the folder. If there are hundreds, thousands, or tens of thousands of duplicates to process, I will click the remove selected button every so often to prevent losing my work by accidentally clicking the back button. I pin the tab to prevent against accidentally closing it and losing my work.

So yeah, on the desktop, your going to see little, if any, performance problems using Vivaldi with a large bookmarks library. In fact, you're probably more likely to have performance problems using an extension to manage them.

Vivaldi's bookmark management user experience is a major reason I prefer this browser -- it is far superior to the other solutions out there. I don't know of any extension that improves it, aside from the deduplication process, and I have looked. As you can imagine, maintaining a library this size has made bookmark management an important aspect of browser functionality for me.

The place you will begin to see performance issues, when you get up into 50k bookmarks or so, is on Android. When editing a bookmark and changing its folder, there will be a significant delay loading the folder tree. This is not a Vivaldi issue however, it reproduces in every browser I've tried (about a dozen different browsers). So it's just something you'll live with if you get to this size of library.

Truth be told, it's not a big deal. Vivaldi actually handles the library much better than even Chrome or Firefox, both of which had major problems working with my bookmarks before Vivaldi Beta was released.

zigojacko

@BoneTone said in Bookmark Manager:

I don't think you have you worry about performance issues with the native Vivaldi tools when your bookmarks library gets large. I use the native tools and I have over 120 thousand bookmarks.

I like to use the Bookmark Manager in a tab with the Bookmarks Panel open for organizational tasks such as creating folders and moving bookmarks into them, moving folders from one location to another, changing the order of folders, etc.

For deduplication I use an extension called Bookmarks clean up (yes, with that capitalization). It's very helpful for identifying and removing duplicate bookmarks, so I now have virtually zero duplication in my library -- with the intentional exceptions of the Speed Dial, Bookmarks Bar, and some mobile bookmarks. Those folders and any others in which I knowingly have duplicates stored, I use the settings to exclude them from the duplicates search.

My process involves running the extension when necessary (such as after an import, or a research session that could have generated duplicates). First I'll click the button to remove duplicates in the same folder. Then I'll scroll through the list of duplicates and picking which ones to delete is typically easy -- usually I want to delete the new ones. Instead of having to tick each individual bookmark I click the eye next to the folder name which will toggle all duplicates in the folder. If there are hundreds, thousands, or tens of thousands of duplicates to process, I will click the remove selected button every so often to prevent losing my work by accidentally clicking the back button. I pin the tab to prevent against accidentally closing it and losing my work.

So yeah, on the desktop, your going to see little, if any, performance problems using Vivaldi with a large bookmarks library. In fact, you're probably more likely to have performance problems using an extension to manage them.

Vivaldi's bookmark management user experience is a major reason I prefer this browser -- it is far superior to the other solutions out there. I don't know of any extension that improves it, aside from the deduplication process, and I have looked. As you can imagine, maintaining a library this size has made bookmark management an important aspect of browser functionality for me.

The place you will begin to see performance issues, when you get up into 50k bookmarks or so, is on Android. When editing a bookmark and changing its folder, there will be a significant delay loading the folder tree. This is not a Vivaldi issue however, it reproduces in every browser I've tried (about a dozen different browsers). So it's just something you'll live with if you get to this size of library.

Truth be told, it's not a big deal. Vivaldi actually handles the library much better than even Chrome or Firefox, both of which had major problems working with my bookmarks before Vivaldi Beta was released.

Ideal, thanks for this feedback - that's really helpful.

Over 120,000 bookmarks?? Bloody hell!

zigojacko

@BoneTone said in Bookmark Manager:

On another note, what do you access to see those Type Counter stats in your screenshot please?

jumpsq

@zigojacko Find it as vivaldi://sync ("Types" tab)

// Bloody hell. Links to protocols other than http and https not working here??

theprawn

@zigojacko these days I'm less an archivist and also just use the built in bookmark manager without complaint. But the hosted bookmark service I've used extensively in the past is Pinboard. There are extensions available to integrate the bookmarking/clipping process and the mobile site (http://m.pinboard.in/) works great as a panel in V.

BoneTone

@zigojacko said in Bookmark Manager:

On another note, what do you access to see those Type Counter stats in your screenshot please?

@jumpsq got yah right. It's on the sync internals page.
You can see it on the main page, but I screenshot the Types tab like jumpsq said.

In addition to the link he provided you can find links to all those "behind the scenes" pages at:
vivaldi://about/

@jumpsq said in Bookmark Manager:

// Bloody hell. Links to protocols other than http and https not working here??

It depends on what protocols you have defined on your system. That's about your system recognizing the protocol and sending it to the correct program. So you could probably go define it in your system settings where the other protocol assignments are, or just shrug and copy paste like me. It's not like some other protocols for which I have a frequent use, so I don't worry about it. For pages like that, which I do access frequently, I've got them in a bookmark somewhere (Speed Dial, Bookmarks Bar, etc.).

Streptococcus

@BoneTone
What about invalid bookmarks? Do you ever check for those? Web pages are not eternal. Sometimes they disappear.

Pesala

@Streptococcus Never mind. With that many bookmarks he doesn't use even 1% of them. He's just collecting them for fun.

It would be nice to have Duplicated Bookmark Detection / Cleanup